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rock_bottom in ontd_political

Rachel does it again.

Feb 09, 2011 19:59

This is a GREAT segment from Rachel Maddow's show last night, where she goes into depth about the modern conservative movement, the Republican Party, and how all of this is shaping American politics in general. VERY informative and interesting.

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krazykat88 February 10 2011, 04:22:37 UTC

I saw this last night. I was like :D

muse_misery February 10 2011, 04:32:09 UTC

"do that thing .... YES!"

haha, she's so fucking cute sometimes. I loved this.

cyranothe2nd February 10 2011, 20:16:46 UTC

Correction: Rachel is fucking cute at ALL times.

rock_bottom February 10 2011, 04:41:11 UTC

The segment that followed featured two Republican members of the Wyoming state legislature who were objecting to the radical abortion bill that was in debate... one of whom shared her personal story of having an abortion, and why the state needed to GTFO, from a purely libertarian point of view. It was pretty emotional and amazing.

doe_witch February 10 2011, 05:00:51 UTC

Very interesting segment- nothing that I haven't really thought of myself, tbh, but worth discussing in detail the way that she did. I'm mostly with the Harper's guy, though; this divide isn't going to split the GOP apart, let alone break it. It could, theoretically, but only with some really incredible catalyst(s) for the libertarian wing being like "fuck this, we're going third party!" or with the Democrats actually pulling their heads out of their asses and taking advantage. Right now, and for the foreseeable future, I don't see either situation being likely because a) no trust should be placed in the Dems at any time, and b) I think there are fewer 100% die-hard libertarians in the GOP than Maddow may want to imagine, given that if they're calling themselves conservatives at all, they wind up being prey to the culture war rhetoric put out by the party leaders. Most of the die-hard libertarians have already split and are, surprise surprise, the Libertarian Party and similar groups.

haruhiko February 10 2011, 05:06:03 UTC

Not only that, but what Maddow fails to mention is that this split between statists/authoritarians and the liberty-minded/progressives exists in the Dem Party as well. As recent votes on anti-abortion measures and as the most recent vote on the Patriot Act provisions shows, quite a large bloc of Dems are willing to go for the authoritarian option if given the chance. Unfortunately this tendency is bipartisan and not foreign to our "left."

doe_witch February 10 2011, 05:35:33 UTC

Basically. Though idk, while my faith in the Dems is, er, zero I do think the motivations behind the two parties turning authoritarian differ slightly ( ... )

elialshadowpine February 10 2011, 07:18:33 UTC

I really like the commentary about the cognitive dissonance between reproductive control and small gov't. I hadn't quite actually thought of it in those terms before.

The fissure between both sides of the Republican party is something that could be taken advantage of, but we all know the Democrats aren't going to do that. For some reason, they seem to think that politics is about Playing Nice.

umi_mikazuki February 10 2011, 08:03:12 UTC

Not to mention the cognitive dissonance between controlling what people, regardless of gender or sex, are allowed to do in the bedroom and small government. What, are you going to require that people record their sexual activity so you can prosecute them if they use a position you disapprove of? List the type of contraception used, if any?