Obama breaks promise to refer to the Armenian Genocide, as a genocide....sorta

Apr 24, 2009 16:31

This is my first ever post so I apologize first hand for any mistakes to come. I hope the cut works

Obama's statment on "Armenian Remembrance Day"

"Ninety four years ago, one of the great atrocities of the 20th century began. Each year, we pause to remember the 1.5 million Armenians who were subsequently massacred or marched to their death in the ( Read more... )

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war4l April 25 2009, 00:09:43 UTC
this might be totally ot - but i live in glendale, california and all day today i've seen armenian kids in their mercedes racing each other down one of the main streets here with flags waving from their cars. they do this every single year to "commemorate" the genocide but from the looks of it, you would think the armenian national futbol team just won the world cup or something. fucking dumbasses.

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member00 April 25 2009, 00:12:57 UTC
I live in Glendale and am Armenian, and we think those kids are idiots too. During April, they think that putting up a flag and honking at the protesters is some sort of sign of solidarity. I wish it didn't happen either. But I do want to make clear that most Armenian americans feel the same way.

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onelittlesleep April 25 2009, 00:20:33 UTC
Hahaha, I live in Whittier and try to make it out to Glendale every year for some of the get togethers.

I mean, there are always the loud kids, but mostly it's a time when I feel like...SOLIDARITY. And people are always like "YOU'RE TOO THIN. EAAAAT!" UGH.

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member00 April 25 2009, 00:30:46 UTC
lol armenian hospitality is basically stuffing you with all the food in the house

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member00 April 25 2009, 00:10:39 UTC
sorry sent this in late and now it's redundant

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synth___romance April 25 2009, 05:02:46 UTC
I'm not exactly sure about which way i feel about the armenian massacres. While it was a horrible event in history, I don't quite understand why if the Turks are willing to take it to the international court of justice, and rule on it further, why the Armenians won't agree to this as well. A lot of people say there's not enough historical evidence :\

It seems fishy.

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synth___romance April 25 2009, 05:04:56 UTC
and If the Armenians won't take it to the International court of Justice, then the US shouldn't have to call it a genocide.

This was Obama doing his job.. playing politics. The US needs Turkey's alliance. Maybe we'll start calling it genocide officially and recogonize it on the level of the holocaust when the Armenians are willing to take it to court and prove it.

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member00 April 25 2009, 06:46:53 UTC
The historical facts have been presented ever since the era of the genocide in 1915-1918. There are countless foreign eyewitness reports and memoirs, pictures, government documents [Turkish and American alike], and numerous documentaries that list all the various proofs of genocide. People like US ambassador to Turkey Henry Morgenthau, and numerous Red Cross workers wrote memoirs about what they witnessed. Armin T Wegner was able to photograph victims that are some of the rare footage from an era when photos and videos were extremely rare. Very few seconds of video footage have also survived. American Newspapers like the Boston Globe and NYT have multiple articles in their archives that date back to the days of the actual genocide with the numbers of victims rising as the months went by ( ... )

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synth___romance April 25 2009, 07:13:46 UTC
I don't know enough about it do deny the fact that it was a genocide, if I made it seem that way, it was wrong. I know there's evidence of a massacre and possible/probable genocide occurring, I wasn't saying there wasn't any ( ... )

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