Federal court halts Trump’s immigration ban

[moonshaz]

The federal court for the Eastern District of New York issued an emergency stay halting deportations under President Donald Trump’s executive order banning entry to the US from seven majority-Muslim countries tonight, following widespread protests at airports around the country.

You can read the full text of the stay hereThe court order prevents

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[eveofrevolution]

[moonshaz]

Thanks for the tag! I'm sure it will get lots of use.

[yamamanama]

I heard that customs agents are ignoring the ruling. Can anything be done about that?

[golden_bastet]

1. They are still stuck in detention, the stay coves only sending them back. (and as mentioned, it does affect a massive range of people, such as green card holders who were out of the country at the time of the order, as well)

2. If this ban was so important, why aren't countries like Saudi Arabia on it? - Oh, yeah, Trump business locations.

He's just getting started, folks. I'm sure he's got much more in mind.

[yamamanama]

Eh, he's probably eying Sudan and Syria for business.

[amw]

This "Trump business locations" thing is a red herring. The countries involved in this ban are countries that were already identified several years ago as being terrorist hotbeds, and people who have traveled to them were already singled out as being ineligible for the visa waiver program. This was already problematic, but Friday's executive order does not just make it more difficult to visit America, it completely bans Muslim green card holders, Muslim refugees, and other Muslim citizens of those countries who are traveling for business or pleasure. It is a whole nother level of disgusting. But the countries in particular? They're just the same ones that were already on a blacklist.

[liliaeth]

That still doesn't explain why Saudi Arabia wasn't on the list before, since almost all actual 'muslim terrorists' committing crimes in the US were either Saudis or Pakistani. Neither of which country is on the list.

(not saying the list should exist at all, but if this really were about protecting the US from terrorism, then Saudi Arabia should be one of the first countries to look at. But then Saudi Arabia is a rich ally with oil interests so...)

[jeeelim5]

So my brother had to cancel our annual family reunion in the UAE (where my parents live) because he's a green card holder and he doesn't want to take any chances by leaving the US, even though he isn't Muslim and the UAE isn't on the list. He's afraid they'll take the banning further while he's gone and he won't be let back in.

A lot of my high school friends in the US have family in the ME and/or are Muslim, and I am scared for all of them, and everyone else affected by this. I donated today to CAIR, and wanted to for ACLU as well but couldn't find a way to do it through Paypal. I'm just.... so sad and angry and scared right now.

Edit: Just editing to clarify, obviously my family's situation is nowhere near as horrific as many others, especially those in the states on the list. I just.. haven't seen my brother since my graduation last summer and I miss him and I'm scared they'll find a way to deport him or something.

[amw]

Don't need to "clarify". If people don't stand up and make a racket about how utterly unacceptable this is right fucking now it is very likely that the blacklist will grow. I suspect UAE would be one of the less-likely countries to be blacklisted, but that doesn't inspire much confidence when anyway you are at the mercy of the individual border agent once you arrive. I can totally understand the fear.

I am not American and would like to donate via PayPal to CAIR but their main site appears to be down or blocked for me. Do you think donating to the MN branch would help?

[jeeelim5]

Yeah, I've been vocal about it all day because I'm so frustrated. The ban got a mention here and there in my country but it's Lunar New Year + our own country's politics is basically a shitstorm as well, so it gets buried by all the local news :(

And yes, my brother has had bad experiences with visas in the past (he was once denied a student visa because the immigration officer at the embassy accused him of sounding "too American" and that meant he was going to end up being an illegal immigrant in the US) and the stamp they use at passport control in the UAE is mostly in Arabic, and that's all some people need lbr..

https://www.cair.com/donations/general-donation/campaign/#/donationDoes this link work for you? If not, I think donating to any branch of CAIR will help tbh because they're going to need it.

[amw]

Nope, I can get to the individual state pages, but all the www links go to a Cloudflare error page for me :( Will give it another try tomorrow on my work computer.

I am shocked that American conservatives and even a few moderates are okay with this. I have been shaking in anxiety most of the weekend. I don't know what to do.

[evildevil]

https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/

thank, Obama.

[amw]

This is getting dangerously close to that "Clinton is just as evil as Trump" nonsense from the campaign