The Death of Clintonism

Jan 01, 2017 16:09

With Hillary Clinton's loss, Democrats are burying a once-winning way of politics ( Read more... )

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blackjedii January 2 2017, 00:24:02 UTC
sucks that it involves a Republican deathgrip though -.-

(I read this last week IIRC, not so sure how to feel about it because as we've seen, saying something is dead and buried and totally not going to come back in unexpected ways is a bad promise)

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invisiblegirlx January 2 2017, 00:48:52 UTC

nothing is ever dead and buried in politics. sometimes a resounding defeat is what is needed to create a new   era

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invisiblegirlx January 2 2017, 00:46:54 UTC

I think the democratic party desperately needs to listen to its base who not only want diversity and minority rights protected but also want their politicians to stand against corporate greed and to stop putting their donors first. if they can't do that it will be a rough next few years for them.

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lightframes January 2 2017, 17:34:14 UTC
Thank you! Both are needed.

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meadowphoenix January 2 2017, 01:13:08 UTC
I mean, "Clintonism" won in the first place because "Carterism" failed so disastrously. If ideals of Carter can truly make a come-back, then Clintonism is unnecessary. If they can't, two guesses as to what Democratic party emerges. I don't think it's reasonable to call two people a dynasty but I'll be generous about that.

But anyway, I'm glad this article admits that the WWC doesn't want shit for anyone more disadvantaged if they think puts them back at bit, no matter how anti-fact that perception is. It's nice for them to admit that.

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lollycunt January 2 2017, 01:14:35 UTC
Is anyone as ascendent now as Obama was in 2004? He made a big impression in his DNC speech, I don't know why people were acting like he just showed up in 2008.

The democrats have not fostered a lot of young talent and they pushed out everyone who didn't follow Clinton-esque ideology and now they are really fucked.

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sabrinita January 2 2017, 01:57:09 UTC
Thanks for mentioning that about Obama. I see so many people acting like he just popped on the radar out of nowhere in 2008 when I distinctly remember reading articles about him on a computer in my high school..and I graduated high school in 2007

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sabrinita January 2 2017, 01:57:37 UTC
Thanks for mentioning that about Obama. I see so many people acting like he just popped on the radar out of nowhere in 2008 when I distinctly remember reading articles about him on a computer in my high school..and I graduated high school in 2007

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tilmon January 2 2017, 02:30:04 UTC
The Democrats do have young talent, but Hillary seemed bound and determined not to use it. Was she that angry at Sanders that she just couldn't bear the thought of appealing to the people who he appealed to?

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lightframes January 2 2017, 17:33:29 UTC
one that can somehow rise above prevailing identity politics (much as Clinton did) to forge an interracial coalition of working-class voters who can carry the big swing states in the heart of the country that count in the Electoral College

I'm just going to start copy-pasting this response to every article that says this:

You don't need to "rise above" or abandon identity politics to form a multiracial working class coalition. You can do both at the same time.

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