Bernie Blew It

Jun 28, 2016 18:17

Elizabeth Warren is the surrogate he was supposed to be. His supporters have become Clinton’s. How Sanders overplayed his hand.On Monday, Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren campaigned together in Cincinnati. Their message was clear: Donald Trump is a “thin-skinned bully who is driven by greed and hate,” as Warren put it, and the Democratic Party ( Read more... )

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natyanayaki June 29 2016, 01:08:20 UTC
the "old white man" tag is really making me uncomfortable, as if antisemitism isn't a thing, as if white supremacists don't hate jewish people. i really felt like throwing up when i saw that...

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roseembolism June 29 2016, 03:45:06 UTC
Well, it's a bit easier for him to pass with your average bigoted cop than say, Tamar Rice. Or Akai Gurley, or Kajieme Powell, or John Crawford III, or Eric Garner, or Yvette Smith, or Jonathan Ferrell...

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spiritoftherain June 29 2016, 16:35:52 UTC
Yeah. This. I'm white, on the autistic spectrum, and I have been told how important it is to manage my temper when I get overwhelmed... presumably so that I don't inadvertently put myself in danger of being killed by police.

The "anti-SJW" movement has its roots in male bigotry, but the one criticism I have of the social justice camp is that we shouldn't use the oppression of one group to scream over the injustices of another--just because Nazis and concentration camps are last century's news...

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lovedforaday June 29 2016, 01:12:17 UTC
he'll be mostly forgotten by most people besides his supporters if he doesn't figure out how to extend his influence. it happens every election cycle outside a few exceptions.

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blackjedii June 29 2016, 01:42:05 UTC
Eh idek about his personal influence. I care if people decide to get involved bc he inspired them, is perhaps more accurate. If there are newbies starting to get involved in politicos at the grassroots... GOOD.

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natyanayaki June 29 2016, 04:00:20 UTC
yeah it does, but like...i don't care about him so much as i care about pushing forth more leftist/progressive values in the future which include helping to elect politicians who would push for those values. and it would likely hurt sanders in this regard if he were to simply tow party lines...at this point at least (meaning before the convention).

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bombay June 29 2016, 02:21:28 UTC

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ericadawn16 June 29 2016, 02:52:41 UTC
I hope he does, I hate how everyone treats us, his supporters, as inevitably voting for Clinton...no, that's the whole point. We never wanted to be sheep. We never wanted the party line just because the party said so. We wanted MORE than that. Most fellow supporters I know have not gone over to Clinton and might never go over to Clinton. The current DNC platform shows how clueless they are.

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ms_mmelissa June 29 2016, 03:10:26 UTC
MTE.

If he had conceded or endorsed he would have gotten credit for Clinton's bump and been negotiating from a position of strength (and she's shown willingness to move to the left anyway).

People like to make fun of Clinton for feeling entitled or whatever but look at how she worked hard in 2008 not only for the good of the party but to put herself in a position in 2016 where legit challengers actually stepped aside for her. The way Bernie's acted has only bred ill-will among the people he's supposed to be working with and I don't know how that's supposed to get anything accomplished.

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ms_mmelissa June 29 2016, 03:06:07 UTC
And I don't think you can blame the media. He didn't have anything new to say and nothing new to cover.

Every time I've seen him post-Cali he has the same message that he's had the entire election cycle there's been no change, no pivot, no acknowledgement of the millions of people who voted Clinton over him.

I look at Elizabeth Warren and think he well and truly missed the opportunity to play his cards right. She's essentially stepped into the role he could have had seamlessly.

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ms_mmelissa June 29 2016, 03:31:13 UTC
Fair enough, but what kind of position would you like him to be in now?

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invisiblegirlx June 29 2016, 10:40:23 UTC
I don't think Bernie wants to be a mouthpiece for Hillary in the same way as Warren. I think his supporters would see it as him backing off on what he set out to do, which is change the party.

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vindictaa June 29 2016, 13:20:50 UTC
ia

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koushiba June 29 2016, 15:25:56 UTC
Yup

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ponyboy June 29 2016, 23:54:18 UTC
exactly. she doesn't have the same values and instincts as him and he shouldn't have to be her mouthpieace.

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