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sfrlz November 29 2012, 00:54:52 UTC
Honestly, I don't mind scrapping the word "homophobia." We should call it what it is - hatred, bigotry, discrimination, ignorance, whatever, instead of "fear." But I can also understand why some might be side-eyeing this.

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robintheshrew November 29 2012, 01:01:59 UTC

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wrestlingdog November 29 2012, 03:07:03 UTC
LMFAO

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squeeful November 29 2012, 01:03:38 UTC
:-/

Imagine that, a colloquial term that doesn't mean exactly the same as its technical/medical/scientific meaning or its root words. Is the AP going to nix "theory" except for its precise scientific meaning too? Ooh, how about "awesome" because that means something different in post-1960s America than it did before or what it means in other English-speaking countries. I know when I say something is "awesome" I don't mean it fills me with awe akin to a deep religious experience at the omnipotence of God.

Words change. They mean things more than just their roots indicate.

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jettakd November 29 2012, 01:32:43 UTC
Thank you.

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squeeful November 29 2012, 01:54:00 UTC
Yeah, I have feels about regulation of language.

Breaking "phobia" down to just "fear" ignores, as well, the cultural connotations of what "fear" meant to the ancient Greeks and what "fear" means to us. Saying "phobos" is "fear" is a simplistic translation and loses meaning in the process. Not just screaming and running away, fear is the emotion felt in response to a perceived threat.

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jettakd November 29 2012, 01:58:50 UTC
This comment is beautiful and you should feel good.

Regulation of language to the degree that AP and other organizations does it, just skeeves me out. It's full of classism, racism, and transphobia and even sexism. As one person on Tumblr put it, why should the common person care to be thrown dictionary definitions, especially of their oppression at them, when their oppressions have been defined by the people who regulate language? Wealthy, white men.

Unless I can't understand what someone is saying, I won't even correct them, it's just pretentious to me.

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jimmyblue November 29 2012, 01:05:17 UTC
I agree that "homophobia" is a bit of a misnomer, but there really isn't a sufficient replacement for it.

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caterfree10 November 29 2012, 21:17:04 UTC
Heterosexism seems to work just fine, imho. :|

EDIT: I can't spell today.

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jettakd November 29 2012, 01:34:15 UTC
Oh yay, the AP prescriptively telling people that their commonly used language isn't good enough again.

I can understand the problems with both terms, but eliminating the words isn't really going to help anything. And someone tell me how "anti-gay" is supposedly more neutral than homophobia?

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skellington1 November 29 2012, 02:13:42 UTC
I think eliminating or scare-quoting "ethnic cleansing" is a good journalistic move, because it's too easy for stories to be twisted by using the approved language (see: how Faux news frames almost anything, ever) -- and since it's only the AP style guide, the prescriptivism doesn't bother me that much.

Homophobia, though, is a much more loaded discussion, as can be seen anywhere on this thread.

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jettakd November 29 2012, 02:27:01 UTC
Ethnic cleansing I can somewhat understand. It's outdated and abused by people, as you say. But yeah, I think homophobia being removed is a highly loaded move, and not one that I particularly approve of.

To be fair, I don't approve of organizations like the AP in general though, as you might have guessed.

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fluteaphrael November 29 2012, 10:38:30 UTC
I think in this case I get their point. I know there's arguments on both sides of using homophobia - but they're not suggesting that people change their language. What they are saying is that in news reports, language might need to be more precise than in daily use. I totally agree that "ethnic cleansing," is a really lousy phrase. It really soft pedals a lot of the horror of what is essentially genocide by another name ( ... )

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