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aeka June 19 2012, 23:02:31 UTC
People like Ron Rosenberg are exactly what's wrong with this industry and in many other corners of geek culture. The sad part is it doesn't matter how many times it gets pointed out to them how reinforcing these problematic tropes contribute to existing negative views about women and rape culture in the whole of society, they still don't get why this is a problem in the first place.

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mythrai June 19 2012, 23:36:12 UTC
frankly, the fact that Nerd Culture exists as a concept at all is what's wrong with it.

the stuff about rape culture/sexism/etc happens in mainstream media too

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mythrai June 20 2012, 02:42:11 UTC
because a culture based around what people consume is fucked to hell, and makes it incredibly hard to critique it without a bunch of angry neckbeards in fedoras and N7 t-shirts sending you thousands upon thousands of death and rape threats. (See Anita Sarkeesian's Kickstarter

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warpedsexuality June 20 2012, 00:55:02 UTC
I know, right

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xochitl June 20 2012, 20:08:08 UTC
I had a friend who said that, almost exactly, as his dating strategy. -__-

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sherlockholmes June 20 2012, 20:09:01 UTC
You might need better friends.

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sherlockholmes June 20 2012, 00:05:24 UTC
I think the point the article was trying to make was how unrealistic the intended portrayal of sexual assault is. With that and mind, I'd just say that I wouldn't trust the gaming industry to make a game that dealt with the subject matter in a realistic or respectful (to the victims) way.

Additionally, I'm not sure I'd see what the point of a game like that would be -- and would probably be wary of the person who wanted to...play it...

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inkedfeathers June 21 2012, 22:45:53 UTC
[Trigger warnings for sexual assault, denial of abuse, victim-blaming, and maybe some other stuff too.]

This reminds me of a manga oneshot called Made-Up Myth ~ Second Rape.

You can find it here!

That's practically the whole plot! To summarize (if you'd rather not read a 50+ page comic), a shy young girl is raped and deals with the police's mistrust ( and accusations that she wasn't really raped, because she didn't scream or say no! Never mind that the guy had a knife or something and threatened to kill her if she called for help ) and winds up severely disheartened by the fact until her best friend realizes what's up and supports her. Then, she finally has the courage to open up to her mother and by the end, after she builds up confidence, they take it to court!

I miiight have mixed up the chronology of some events, it's been nearly a year since I read it, I think. ^^;;A game like that would be interesting, although I don't know if too many people would be able to take it. I'd like it for giving people a bit of insight to what ( ... )

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wuvvumsoc June 20 2012, 00:08:58 UTC
So I have a few thoughts on this thing. I guess I could start with this ( ... )

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wuvvumsoc June 20 2012, 22:53:50 UTC
When I was playing Tomb Raider I was a child and often I was too afraid to leave "starting areas" of a video game at the time. I really haven't played much of tomb raider but I do remember the one of her being a young lady was within a tutorial.

I've been trying to avoid traumatizing events at least if I don't understand them too well. I see things like house fires being plausible since I've been through one, or losing someone like a relative, especially in war-torn settings. I think someone else mentioned that maybe they should have had some input from a few women for perspective to see if they handled the situation well or not, or if it was even needed.

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darkmanifest June 20 2012, 07:21:33 UTC
if I played this game, or any game, in which a band of cutthroat blackguards held captive a young woman who didn't have any fighting experience, I would be, dare I say, surprised if they didn't try something to that extent.Personally, I can never really buy the "realism" argument for rape in media, largely because nothing else about Lara's situation is realistic. Lara (injured, exhausted, hands bound, unarmed, untrained Lara) fights off vicious men twice her size all by herself and eventually turns into a killer and tomb raider, all while evading ridiculous hazards in ways that defy the laws of chance and physics without being incapacitated by exposure, infection, or by eating the wrong wildlife. But a rape attempt, nope, can't suspend disbelief far enough to avoid that one. Not to mention, we could always assume if Lara is captured alive by the bad guys in any of her games and doesn't get away in time, it won't go swimmingly for her, but a demonstration of this just seems...gratuitous, to me. It's not something people go out of ( ... )

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