So the news have sunk in, and we're apparently not going to get a Groundhog Day style miracle, and the world will have to keep on turning
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Getting electoral college people to change their votes is a pie-in-the-sky dream. Yes, it's technically possible but it's not going to happen. Looking at the states in the link where it could occur: Pennsylvania is the only one where I could see it happening. The rest of the states (save swing-state Iowa) are conservative. Period. Also: the House is Republican; doing this would change nothing.
I honestly laughed to see the poster hoping to flip Kentucky. I live in the state. There would be violence if that happened. The only counties that voted majority Clinton were Lexington and Louisville. 57% of Louisville voters voted for Clinton. It's not an overwhelming majority by any stretch of the imagination.
And, frankly, this person did not think of the wider social consequences of this: it pretty much, from the vast majority of the US population's standpoint, would be stealing the election. (Most Americans don't understand how the electoral college works, either.) It would legitimize Trump's statements about election rigging, voter
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*hugs* Thank you; you've nailed it on all those points.
The anti-Trump protests are not going to accomplish anything useful. They'll just stir up more anger and divisiveness, and probably violence. Trump won the election legally; Hillary has already conceded - the only way to stop him being President would be if Congress found some charge against him, and that is really unlikely at this point.
It is useful to harass our elected officials about election reform, but they're all getting a storm of harassment from all sides right now, so really it'll be more effective to harass them in a few months, when the dust has settled. It's persistence that pays off.
Emigration is no answer. Hello, the world is already full of refugees who were driven from their homes by war and famine; other countries sure don't want us swelling the throngs at their gates
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Nobody really understands the electoral college. The whole reason we have the electoral college was basically a back door in case the people in power didn't like who the common people elected. (The alternative explanation was to keep the people from ignorantly voting in a heinous demagogue. Hello, Mr. Trump!)
We would never really be able to overturn this election by nagging our electors, and we wouldn't really want to. Their side has most of the guns.
However, what we do have some hope of doing is creating enough press and fuss about it that we seriously put the pressure on to end that ridiculous system. The trouble is keeping the pressure up after the election hysteria dies down.
(I apologize for not putting this well. Words aren't really cooperating with me right now, and I'm more ranty on a general level right now than at you
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Oh, sweety. I honestly don't know what to say. Because a lot of what I can think of saying is just based on hope and, perhaps, naïvety. And I might well be wrong.
But the thing is, I don't think there's any way of changing things for the better that's exclusive of people who voted for Trump, or would vote for AfD. The further apart these groups are drifting from "us", the less they can be reached
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I honestly laughed to see the poster hoping to flip Kentucky. I live in the state. There would be violence if that happened. The only counties that voted majority Clinton were Lexington and Louisville. 57% of Louisville voters voted for Clinton. It's not an overwhelming majority by any stretch of the imagination.
And, frankly, this person did not think of the wider social consequences of this: it pretty much, from the vast majority of the US population's standpoint, would be stealing the election. (Most Americans don't understand how the electoral college works, either.) It would legitimize Trump's statements about election rigging, voter ( ... )
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The anti-Trump protests are not going to accomplish anything useful. They'll just stir up more anger and divisiveness, and probably violence. Trump won the election legally; Hillary has already conceded - the only way to stop him being President would be if Congress found some charge against him, and that is really unlikely at this point.
It is useful to harass our elected officials about election reform, but they're all getting a storm of harassment from all sides right now, so really it'll be more effective to harass them in a few months, when the dust has settled. It's persistence that pays off.
Emigration is no answer. Hello, the world is already full of refugees who were driven from their homes by war and famine; other countries sure don't want us swelling the throngs at their gates ( ... )
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We would never really be able to overturn this election by nagging our electors, and we wouldn't really want to. Their side has most of the guns.
However, what we do have some hope of doing is creating enough press and fuss about it that we seriously put the pressure on to end that ridiculous system. The trouble is keeping the pressure up after the election hysteria dies down.
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But the thing is, I don't think there's any way of changing things for the better that's exclusive of people who voted for Trump, or would vote for AfD. The further apart these groups are drifting from "us", the less they can be reached ( ... )
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