Judge rules Marilyn Manson accuser’s recantation inadmisable in Evan Rachel Wood defamation case

[celja]

The judge presiding over Marilyn Manson’s defamation case against Evan Rachel Wood has denied his motion to admit as evidence a declaration from one of his sexual abuse accusers claiming Wood manipulated her into making her initial allegations.https://t.co/5p0toQtiOr
- The FADER (@thefader) March 1, 2023

After the news of Ashley Smithline recanting

Comments

Take the fucker for all he's worth!

[theylezharold]

Omg a judge with sense!

[poordat]

My dark lord, stay on this man's neck until he stops breathing, hail Satan.

Why the fuck would her recanting be relevant to ERW's case? There has been no attempts to verify her claim that she was coerced; you can't just admit anyone's words into evidence, especially with no proof to back the allegation up.

Sorry to this woman but she needs to take her issues to therapy.

[theactualworst]

Meanwhile ERW has hard proof this woman came to her first.

[poordat]

I'm glad she did because this smells of Depp-esque character assassination. He had to know it was a weak attempt and probably wouldn't hold up, he just wanted to cast doubt and turn people against her.

[new_peteland]

Fuck this piece of shit. Honestly, drop dead.

[sluttyroyals]

“ At a hearing Tuesday, a judge denied Warner’s ex parte application to include a declaration from Smithline where she recanted her allegations of abuse against Warner. The judge questioned why Warner’s legal team hadn’t requested to depose Smithline sooner in the case. “We did ask to seek a number of depositions back at the time … and your honor denied those requests for those depositions,” Warner’s attorney said. “Even if we had requested Smithline’s deposition at the time, it wouldn’t have made a difference

[theactualworst]

I mean it’s also pretty obviously coercion and ERW basically proved that with her evidence. Them only wanting to depose her once she turned is a dead giveaway. His lawyers ain’t slick.

[skeetertuskin]

Idgi? Judge denied their request for deposition so why is he asking them to the contrary?

[insomniachobs]

Basically, Warner's team previously asked to depose a bunch of people *not* including Smithline. The judge said no to those depositions. So all this time later, when they've put in this late-in-the-day request to depose Smithline, the judge has questioned why they didn't ask for it earlier. Their excuse for not doing so is basically that "well you said no to all the rest so there was no point asking for this, it wouldn't have made a difference."

Which is a seriously weak excuse, and an attempt to dodge the fact that they don't have a good reason for not having asked earlier. And the judge has said (not a quote) - well, we can't know that it wouldn't have made a difference because you didn't ask, you haven't given me a good reason for allowing it now, denied.

[skeetertuskin]

Forged FBI letter? What?

[theactualworst]

Right? Citation needed.

[_clochette_]

The allegation is that as part of her custody dispute with her son’s father she produced a letter from an FBI agent stating that she was a witness to an ongoing investigation that put her and her son at risk, justifying her moving her son to Tennessee. A magazine (I don’t remember which) tried to authenticate it and found there was no agent by that name. I don’t think there’s any official ruling on it yet.

I’m concerned that she’s being given bad advice legally, and I hope that it doesn’t damage her position here, because Manson is a POS and he deserves to go down for what he’s done.

[skeetertuskin]

i mean who the hell would advise her to forge an FBI letter. hopefully it's not true.