Judge rules Marilyn Manson accuser’s recantation inadmisable in Evan Rachel Wood defamation case

[celja]

The judge presiding over Marilyn Manson’s defamation case against Evan Rachel Wood has denied his motion to admit as evidence a declaration from one of his sexual abuse accusers claiming Wood manipulated her into making her initial allegations.https://t.co/5p0toQtiOr
- The FADER (@thefader) March 1, 2023

After the news of Ashley Smithline recanting

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[sluttyroyals]

“ At a hearing Tuesday, a judge denied Warner’s ex parte application to include a declaration from Smithline where she recanted her allegations of abuse against Warner. The judge questioned why Warner’s legal team hadn’t requested to depose Smithline sooner in the case. “We did ask to seek a number of depositions back at the time … and your honor denied those requests for those depositions,” Warner’s attorney said. “Even if we had requested Smithline’s deposition at the time, it wouldn’t have made a difference

[theactualworst]

I mean it’s also pretty obviously coercion and ERW basically proved that with her evidence. Them only wanting to depose her once she turned is a dead giveaway. His lawyers ain’t slick.

[skeetertuskin]

Idgi? Judge denied their request for deposition so why is he asking them to the contrary?

[insomniachobs]

Basically, Warner's team previously asked to depose a bunch of people *not* including Smithline. The judge said no to those depositions. So all this time later, when they've put in this late-in-the-day request to depose Smithline, the judge has questioned why they didn't ask for it earlier. Their excuse for not doing so is basically that "well you said no to all the rest so there was no point asking for this, it wouldn't have made a difference."

Which is a seriously weak excuse, and an attempt to dodge the fact that they don't have a good reason for not having asked earlier. And the judge has said (not a quote) - well, we can't know that it wouldn't have made a difference because you didn't ask, you haven't given me a good reason for allowing it now, denied.

[skeetertuskin]

but they didn't ask to depose her now, they only wanted to submit her recent declaration which judge denied. i mean judge asking why didn't you depose her way back when is odd because she recanted her claims only recently. it's entirely plausible that the defense thought well why bother deposing another victim when the judge keeps denying our requests which is obviously shoddy but judge's reasoning is not entirely objective either. not defending manson's vile ass in any way, but the little armchair lawyer in me is raising questions over here lol.

[eva_hagberg]

This is the first time I see the same tactics not only from abuser himself but from his attorney, that I see in real life. If you fuck with the system though, the system fucks right back! As this judge has proved.

[lysblack]

Their shadyness over this is so fucking obvious. I am glad that so far the judge seems to be seeing through their bullshit.