Jinger Duggar Vuolo Remains Supportive of Josh Duggar's Wife Anna and Their Kids: 'I'm Always Here' https://t.co/GZATM5E3Q7 - People (@people) January 18, 2023
Tbh it’s not the kids’ fault, and she can’t have a relationship with them without having one with their mother, so no point in alienating her. That would just ensure she couldn’t be in touch with them.
I’m torn on Anna. I believe she is absolutely a victim and never had a real chance considering what she grew up in, but at the end of the day she IS an adult and has more autonomy than a child does, so she bears culpability in staying with a child molester and procreating with him AFTER she’s learned of what he’s done. So I can’t completely absolve her of responsibility either… just an ugly situation. I can only hope he never preyed on his own daughters.
I get what you mean about Anna. I think that no amount of religious brainwashing can truly ever make a person think that Josh's actions were acceptable, but I can also understand that she's doing everything she's been told to do since birth. I think there's just a lot of cognitive dissonance there and it's just sad for everyone because they're trapped in a prison that makes victims and predators over and over.
While you’re absolutely right, it’s likely it’s not that she thinks Josh’s actions were acceptable, but more that it’s her fault. Like the IBLP teaches women that when a husband strays or does bad things, it’s her fault. All around bad situation and it’ll honestly take something the equivalent of a miracle for her to get out.
Oh yeah, totally. I've seen some of their doctrine and it's appallingly misogynistic and victim-blaming. It truly doesn't help that she has so many kids because they tie her to him forever and there are a lot of people even beyond their cult that believe even someone like Josh should always have access to his children simply because he's their father. Even in jail.
When you see people talking about "parental alienation" online? That was invented by a man who used it to punish mothers for leaving and in order to give abusive fathers access to the kids. He flat out said in his research that when a father sexually abuses a child, it's the wife's fault for not pleasing him sexually. Family courts do things like say that a father convicted of sexually abusing boys is fine to spend time alone with his daughters because they're girls and tell children that if they're not perfectly obedient to their father, their mother will go to jail.
And that's just the normal everyday family courts of the western world, so I can't even imagine the
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Anna can miss me with her “more to the story” and “road-trip to see my bestie” trash. She saw LITERAL FOOTAGE of the vile stuff he had downloaded and has the audacity to continue to support him.
Jinger was one of Josh’s victims and I wouldn’t be surprised if the older girls had to become the younger girls’ protectors. The parents did absolutely nothing. I’m sure her past assault and residual trauma has made all of this more complicated and she knows it isn’t the kids’ fault.
I am not surprised they do not speak to Josh or visit him in prison. Anna I guess wants to stay married to him despite the fact he cannot be with his children unsupervised. He has like a decade to serve in prison - the kids will be teens/adults by then.
Those poor kids are going to need all the help they can get. There is something deeply wrong with Anna, that goes beyond being raised in a fundie cult. She’s had multiple offers of help from her siblings who aren’t in the cult anymore and had to sit and listen to the horrific details of what Josh was watching and is still standing by her man?? It’s so awful to think that she is the main caregiver of 7 children
And one of them was conceived after the charges came out. It was born like a month before his trial started. So she knew exactly who she was with by then.
I agree. Even with the most brainwashed self-preservation should kick in at some point, or at least the desire to want to protect your children. This man has molested his siblings, cheated on her with Ashley Madison women, and downloaded a crapload of child porn and not only is she still in his corner, she's exposing their children to him? Fuck her, for real.
This is very mature of her. She could be mad at Anna and hate the kids by proxy, but she clearly understands that the actions of her brother don’t reflect on the kids (which should be obvious but a ton of people fail at not holding parentage against children) and being able to accept that she must deal with Anna to continue being a present aunt.
I also like that she’s very ‘Xtian’ about hoping her brother gets better and confesses/repents…but also fuck him, hell no she doesn’t want to ever speak to him. You can hope an abuser gets better and no longer offends while also wanting them forever out of your life, which is also something people don’t get where family is concerned.
None of this could be me. I’d be team “Forget all them people even exist, hope the brother burns in hell.”
I wouldn’t be surprised if she still feels a shit ton of pressure from the family to seem more forgiving of him than she is. She’s now blatantly said that her childhood was full of religious guilt and trauma from what she was taught. Even if she now realizes that’s not how it should be, it’s still so difficult to let go of those feelings completely. So if she was just paying lip service to stay in her parents’ good graces I can understand- we’ve seen what happened to Jill and even knowing how fucked up the family is, it’s got to be hard to know that your parents’ love is conditional and that if you still value relationships with other siblings, especially minor siblings, you have to appear to toe the line.
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I’m torn on Anna. I believe she is absolutely a victim and never had a real chance considering what she grew up in, but at the end of the day she IS an adult and has more autonomy than a child does, so she bears culpability in staying with a child molester and procreating with him AFTER she’s learned of what he’s done. So I can’t completely absolve her of responsibility either… just an ugly situation. I can only hope he never preyed on his own daughters.
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I get what you mean about Anna. I think that no amount of religious brainwashing can truly ever make a person think that Josh's actions were acceptable, but I can also understand that she's doing everything she's been told to do since birth. I think there's just a lot of cognitive dissonance there and it's just sad for everyone because they're trapped in a prison that makes victims and predators over and over.
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Oh yeah, totally. I've seen some of their doctrine and it's appallingly misogynistic and victim-blaming. It truly doesn't help that she has so many kids because they tie her to him forever and there are a lot of people even beyond their cult that believe even someone like Josh should always have access to his children simply because he's their father. Even in jail.
When you see people talking about "parental alienation" online? That was invented by a man who used it to punish mothers for leaving and in order to give abusive fathers access to the kids. He flat out said in his research that when a father sexually abuses a child, it's the wife's fault for not pleasing him sexually. Family courts do things like say that a father convicted of sexually abusing boys is fine to spend time alone with his daughters because they're girls and tell children that if they're not perfectly obedient to their father, their mother will go to jail.
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Jinger was one of Josh’s victims and I wouldn’t be surprised if the older girls had to become the younger girls’ protectors. The parents did absolutely nothing. I’m sure her past assault and residual trauma has made all of this more complicated and she knows it isn’t the kids’ fault.
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I also like that she’s very ‘Xtian’ about hoping her brother gets better and confesses/repents…but also fuck him, hell no she doesn’t want to ever speak to him. You can hope an abuser gets better and no longer offends while also wanting them forever out of your life, which is also something people don’t get where family is concerned.
None of this could be me. I’d be team “Forget all them people even exist, hope the brother burns in hell.”
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