Collin Gosselin discusses being institutionalized & his relationship with his family

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Collin Gosselin, who turned 18 in May, did an interview with ET. Some tidits:

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[invisiblegirlx]

"He thinks if their family hadn't done the show, his parents might still be together"

Honestly having 5 more kids than they wanted is what fucked up jon and Kate and their kids probably feel responsible even if it's not their fault.

I feel bad for the pain he had to endure. Parents should not be allowed to institutionalize their kids. The bar needs to be higher.

[ty]

They had a lot of eggs put in during IVF. I don't think doctors allow that any longer.

[bellwetherr]

i'm in the ivf process now and i think 2 is the max my clinic is willing to do

[strawberrytatoo]

Mine only does one :/ (Which I think is too little, 2 would be better)

[anterrabre]

I feel awful for him. Jon might be messy but I'm glad that when the chips were down he was actually there for his child.

[simprov]

this is where i'm at. was jon probably an absentee/lazy dad when they were little? for sure. but i think he's doing more to try and correct his past mistakes than kate ever will. i can't believe she didn't even show up for collin's custody hearing.

[anterrabre]

That's what guts me. There may have been reasons why he couldn't live in the home, but the fact that she NEVER visited him in all the time he was there or bother to show up for the custody takes this from "perhaps being overwhelmed and making the best choice for the child" to "I really don't give a shit about this child." Involved parents regularly visit and advocate for their child.

I believe this was the child with glasses that always walked around with the stuffed alligator? I hope he's able to reunite with his siblings.

[simprov]

no, i believe that kid with the glasses is called aiden (ayden? idk the spelling).

[progression]

This is so awful. SHE is so fucking awful. Fuck Jon, too. But, she is just a terrible human.

Though, I’m sorry kid, but they wouldn’t be together even without cameras. They could barely stand each other even while she was pregnant.

[chapter013]

I feel terrible for all of the children those two people have.

I never watched the show but remember all of the drama surrounding Kate and Jon and how they brought their children into a horrible situation for money and "fame". It's no surprise that these people are abusive/don't take care of their kids (Collin accused Jon of physically abusing him in 2020, there seems to be a lot to all of this because at least two of the kids choose to live with Jon (Collin being one of them) and the others choose Kate??? Team no one, Jon seems like a creep with the cheating rumors back then claiming he was going after college students and tbh he may have taken Collin and Hannah in but why do the others choose to stay away with no contact??? Both parents seem to be just horrible).

If they hadn't done the show the parents probably wouldn't still be together but the kids at least might have suffered far less with less attention on them.

[miniglik]

I paid no attention at all to this show or the tabloid stuff around them. I *have* been involved with families who have had to institutionalize children or adults (briefly). I have such extremely complicated feelings about it, because there is SO much abuse and potential for abuse in institutions. But there have also been times where I know people had no other choice they could see either. And I also think it’s important to believe the institutionalized person’s report of their own experience! But also, I know, first hand, people who had delusions (that they cannot admit to) and needed to be placed in setting where they will not harm themselves or others.

All that to say this story is way above my ability to parse the truth or my opinion of it. I hope this kid is thriving.

[mwffj]

Yeah this stuff is really hard to deal with because on one hand, you don't want to take away another person's agency but on the other hand is the person themselves really choosing to behave or think in a way that's bringing up the institutionalization discussion?

[mwffj]

Exactly. Institutions were AWFUL as they were but paring them down to virtually nothing and then making it almost impossible to get someone who needs them into them isn't the right answer either.