I'm not Jewish, but my understanding is that it is against Jewish tradition to name a new baby after a living person. Assuming this is the case, there are a few scenarios relative to The Nana and her namesake Sophie Rose
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I'm not Jewish either, but I'd heard of the same tradition. I guess this points out just one more of the many areas- the baby's name- and any family time spent with the new family that should have resulted with the birth, that got lost in the shuffle of runaway non-weddings and house crashings. Ouch. So much for priorities and the most basic details...
It's an Ashkenezic Jewish tradition. Jews from Sephardic descent (from Spanish countries) actually do name after people who are alive. My family is unusual in that it does name after people who are alive, even though we're Ashkenazim. When my parents named my older sister for my paternal grandmother, my maternal grandmother wanted to know if my mother was trying to kill her mother-in-law.
Do we know that Rose is the Nana's middle name? I was wondering if Rose was for Kirsten's mother.
Somehow, with all the ham, bacon, and shrimp tacos that Sandy consumed over the course of the show, I get the feeling that he is not particularly strict in following Jewish customs. Rather like the family that I was a mother's helper for one summer- the only time they were kept kosher was when we went to the wife's mom's house for Friday Sabbath dinner- which was very yummy.
Agreed that Sandy is not religious at all, but I think The Nana was portrayed as being at least somewhat religious, so she might be upset by this, even if Sandy doesn't care.
Alive or dead - I was actually wondering why Kirsten would go all "awww" at the name to begin with - she isn't exactly a favorite of The Nana's and vis versa. So I assumed for Kirsten to be all ga-ga that Rose was maybe her mother's name, but instead of getting some detail we get FRANK. Ducky.
Without even having her present or referring to her directly, Josh managed to completely revise the Nana's character and her antagonistic relationship with Kirsten. Where to begin...? If only we'd had had the Cohens together without "instant baby" (no labor at all?) and the Nana in the finale too we could have had some real, relevant insight and connectivity between the Cohens+1 across generations and had some pieces of the puzzle fit together. Dare to dream- and now there's fic.
Quickly: the commentary on the final episode has Josh saying Sophie Rose is named after her two grandmothers, and despite the Jewish tradition, Sophie is still alive.
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Good points/ideas!
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(Btw, did finally get to read your Chrismukkah collection and I'm slowly getting to the comments. I'm trying to get my beta act together first.)
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Do we know that Rose is the Nana's middle name? I was wondering if Rose was for Kirsten's mother.
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We don't know if Rose is the Nana's middle name. They never said what her middle name was. We don't know what Kirsten's mother's name was, either.
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That's what I thought. Which is why I've started to think that Rose was for Kirsten's mother. I don't know why I insist on feeling like this!
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So I assumed for Kirsten to be all ga-ga that Rose was maybe her mother's name, but instead of getting some detail we get FRANK. Ducky.
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Without even having her present or referring to her directly, Josh managed to completely revise the Nana's character and her antagonistic relationship with Kirsten. Where to begin...? If only we'd had had the Cohens together without "instant baby" (no labor at all?) and the Nana in the finale too we could have had some real, relevant insight and connectivity between the Cohens+1 across generations and had some pieces of the puzzle fit together. Dare to dream- and now there's fic.
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