The Nana and Sophie Rose

Mar 01, 2007 10:29

I'm not Jewish, but my understanding is that it is against Jewish tradition to name a new baby after a living person. Assuming this is the case, there are a few scenarios relative to The Nana and her namesake Sophie Rose ( Read more... )

sophie cohen "the nana", sophie rose cohen, bunny needs home, kirsten cohen, kirsten's mother, sandy cohen, season 4

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beachtree March 1 2007, 18:03:58 UTC
I'm not Jewish either, but I'd heard of the same tradition. I guess this points out just one more of the many areas- the baby's name- and any family time spent with the new family that should have resulted with the birth, that got lost in the shuffle of runaway non-weddings and house crashings. Ouch. So much for priorities and the most basic details...

Good points/ideas!

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millstone1005 March 1 2007, 20:38:15 UTC
thanks

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beachtree March 1 2007, 20:44:02 UTC
Thank YOU. The more bunnies named Flapjacks and any other name, the more adoptions and the more happy bunnies elsewhere.

(Btw, did finally get to read your Chrismukkah collection and I'm slowly getting to the comments. I'm trying to get my beta act together first.)

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famous99 March 1 2007, 18:26:03 UTC
It's an Ashkenezic Jewish tradition. Jews from Sephardic descent (from Spanish countries) actually do name after people who are alive. My family is unusual in that it does name after people who are alive, even though we're Ashkenazim. When my parents named my older sister for my paternal grandmother, my maternal grandmother wanted to know if my mother was trying to kill her mother-in-law.

Do we know that Rose is the Nana's middle name? I was wondering if Rose was for Kirsten's mother.

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millstone1005 March 1 2007, 19:16:56 UTC
Thanks for the info.

We don't know if Rose is the Nana's middle name. They never said what her middle name was. We don't know what Kirsten's mother's name was, either.

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famous99 March 1 2007, 21:40:48 UTC
We don't know if Rose is the Nana's middle name. They never said what her middle name was. We don't know what Kirsten's mother's name was, either.

That's what I thought. Which is why I've started to think that Rose was for Kirsten's mother. I don't know why I insist on feeling like this!

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zbyszko March 1 2007, 19:02:34 UTC
Somehow, with all the ham, bacon, and shrimp tacos that Sandy consumed over the course of the show, I get the feeling that he is not particularly strict in following Jewish customs. Rather like the family that I was a mother's helper for one summer- the only time they were kept kosher was when we went to the wife's mom's house for Friday Sabbath dinner- which was very yummy.

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millstone1005 March 1 2007, 19:19:58 UTC
Agreed that Sandy is not religious at all, but I think The Nana was portrayed as being at least somewhat religious, so she might be upset by this, even if Sandy doesn't care.

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zbyszko March 1 2007, 22:35:57 UTC
Hee, maybe the Nana really is dead- she died when she saw the size of that Chrismakkuh ham.......

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smc36 March 1 2007, 20:21:10 UTC
Alive or dead - I was actually wondering why Kirsten would go all "awww" at the name to begin with - she isn't exactly a favorite of The Nana's and vis versa.
So I assumed for Kirsten to be all ga-ga that Rose was maybe her mother's name, but instead of getting some detail we get FRANK. Ducky.

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millstone1005 March 1 2007, 20:36:53 UTC
Well, whoever takes this bunny (if anybody does), perhaps could come up with an explanation for that.

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beachtree March 1 2007, 20:48:15 UTC
Hee. Like minds!

Without even having her present or referring to her directly, Josh managed to completely revise the Nana's character and her antagonistic relationship with Kirsten. Where to begin...? If only we'd had had the Cohens together without "instant baby" (no labor at all?) and the Nana in the finale too we could have had some real, relevant insight and connectivity between the Cohens+1 across generations and had some pieces of the puzzle fit together. Dare to dream- and now there's fic.

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geor_geor January 27 2008, 01:25:10 UTC
Quickly: the commentary on the final episode has Josh saying Sophie Rose is named after her two grandmothers, and despite the Jewish tradition, Sophie is still alive.

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