I kinda want to reply to your post, but it's gone midnight and I'm so tired and you make so many points and I won't get a proper sit-down with laptop chance again for a few days. (Currently on my phone).
I guess I just wanted to pop by slightly in defence of Mary and her "not just a mom" comment. I've said the very same thing just today. All any of us strive to do is what we feel is the right thing. She can never be the parent that John was because she was robbed of that chance. John's parentung will always have a different dynamic. The boys are adults, they don't need help with things preschoolers do, so she's very much still trying to work out where she fits in the world. And if the BMOL get rid of all the monsters, her boys don't have to and will therefore be safe(r). So, she is being a mom; just not in the way that perhaps she/Dean/Sam thought she would be.
That scene also gave Dean a chance to play out some of his inevitable anger at being left, aged 4. As an adult, sure he can understand why and how Mary died, and even accept
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I read this when you posted it and immediately wanted to reply--because the whole part about Dean not having ever been a child resonated with me SO DEEPLY I felt you could have been writing about ME--but I hadn't seen the episode yet, so I had to wait to properly react until today, when I'd had a chance to view it.
I watched it with your thoughts in my head, weighing what I was seeing with your interpretations...and I have to tell you that we came out pretty aligned on this one.
I was actually really relived when Dean showed Mary the door--and called her 'Mary' and not 'Mom'--that Sam backed him up. I half expected Sam to be all, "Wait, Dean, let's hear her out," even at that point. Later, when Dean calls Sam on his tendency to ride the fence and play the middle, and he says, "Pick a side," what I heard was an unspoken plea to pick HIS side.
Dean has backed Sam up his whole life. Even when he knew what Sam was doing was wrong (demon blood, anyone?) he didn't abandon him. He willingly put himself into danger for no other reason
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As for Mary...I think she's naive. I think she's falling back on her upbringing as a hunter because she was a hunter far longer than she was a wife (which she isn't anymore since John is dead) or a mother. Like your friend twigletmoo, I understood on one level her saying she's more than "just" a mother as I argue that point once in a while myself
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I kinda want to reply to your post, but it's gone midnight and I'm so tired and you make so many points and I won't get a proper sit-down with laptop chance again for a few days. (Currently on my phone).
I guess I just wanted to pop by slightly in defence of Mary and her "not just a mom" comment. I've said the very same thing just today. All any of us strive to do is what we feel is the right thing. She can never be the parent that John was because she was robbed of that chance. John's parentung will always have a different dynamic. The boys are adults, they don't need help with things preschoolers do, so she's very much still trying to work out where she fits in the world. And if the BMOL get rid of all the monsters, her boys don't have to and will therefore be safe(r). So, she is being a mom; just not in the way that perhaps she/Dean/Sam thought she would be.
That scene also gave Dean a chance to play out some of his inevitable anger at being left, aged 4. As an adult, sure he can understand why and how Mary died, and even accept ( ... )
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That's the reason why I'm not watching the show regulary anymore. So I'm very impressed that you still do.
Bringing back Mary was such a weird idea... It's changing the way we saw this character and not in a good way...
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I watched it with your thoughts in my head, weighing what I was seeing with your interpretations...and I have to tell you that we came out pretty aligned on this one.
I was actually really relived when Dean showed Mary the door--and called her 'Mary' and not 'Mom'--that Sam backed him up. I half expected Sam to be all, "Wait, Dean, let's hear her out," even at that point. Later, when Dean calls Sam on his tendency to ride the fence and play the middle, and he says, "Pick a side," what I heard was an unspoken plea to pick HIS side.
Dean has backed Sam up his whole life. Even when he knew what Sam was doing was wrong (demon blood, anyone?) he didn't abandon him. He willingly put himself into danger for no other reason ( ... )
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*HUGS*
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