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wibbble May 4 2007, 17:23:54 UTC
Oh, cool, you must be the Friday entertainment!

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lastwaykeeper May 4 2007, 17:44:04 UTC
Anyone want drinks while the previews are on? :P

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rpangel May 4 2007, 18:11:45 UTC
*passes around the juju-bees*

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anchasta May 4 2007, 17:29:44 UTC
"I used to get shit from people like this all the damn time at work. Maybe I ought to have pressed the witchcraft persecution angle more at the tribunal, screwed my former employers out of even more cash."

Any respect I could have possible had for you is now absolutely gone. None.

Next time? Spend your energy making sure there is no next time, by sucking up your need to justify your religious choices to everyone.

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Respect fiat_knox May 4 2007, 22:14:25 UTC
I don't know you, and I never asked for your respect.

I'm really interested in how you're going to brush off two old people in Hyderabad burned alive as "oh well, I guess they were fluffy so they deserved it".

Real people become hysterical and light bonfires, real people die, and people here prat on about Friday night entertainment.

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Re: Respect wibbble May 4 2007, 22:53:28 UTC
They weren't Pagan, in the sense that people are using it here. You'd be as well to talk about people getting killed in Dafur because they're not Muslim are an example of the day-to-day oppression modern Pagans face.

Don't be such a fucking moron. Don't latch onto other people's misfortune and wear it on your sleeve. It's pathetic.

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Re: Respect smarriveurr May 4 2007, 23:45:58 UTC
I'm sorry. It's horrible. And if you went around the world, you could find equally horrible stories about actions taken by the insane in any nation. But - and here's the key - most papers won't include them in an article about some teacher's aide malingering, being sacked, and claiming persecution.

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ns_kumiho May 4 2007, 17:42:08 UTC
Let me get this straight:

So in the first two the woman didn't do her Job, didn't show up on time, and endlessly talked about Wicca when she did show up. I somehow doubt the same kinda behavior would be tolerated even if she was Christian.

And the last one is about Hindu villagers killing other Hindu villagers because they were believed to have harmed others through magical means...

I don't really see the religious persecution in the last one since all parties were of the same religion...

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smarriveurr May 4 2007, 17:51:42 UTC
In the first case, the question of how often and how her faith came up is debatable, because it's really very much the witch's word - a vested interested in making her employer look bad - vs Ms. Stephen's - with a vested interest in making things look up-and-up. I'm betting the truth is somewhere between the two lines, with De La Rosa getting negative reactions, but their being of her own making as often as not.

Her missing more than four weeks of work in six months, on the other hand, isn't he-said-she-said. I dunno about you, but I don't get 8 weeks of time off in a year either.

The last one is, in fact, utterly unrelated, but it involves people being burned as witches, so it's ... oh, wait. No. They were accused of practicing black magic, apparently in the form of traditional medicine. Yeah. So it's... like... Uhm.

Oh... look at the kitty!

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rpangel May 4 2007, 18:14:20 UTC
~mrowls~

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Nice kitty fiat_knox May 4 2007, 22:16:11 UTC
Reminds me of one I had, once.

It ate one of my Dad's canaries.

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smarriveurr May 4 2007, 17:42:29 UTC
Last year, a barber in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh killed his four-year-old son by slitting his throat with a razor after the man started seeing visions of the Hindu goddess Kali demanding a sacrifice.
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I used to get shit from people like this all the damn time at work.

You used to get your throat slit, or you used to slit throats? I'm slightly confused. In either case, whether you were the murderer or the corpse, it would've made sense to let you go from your position, so I don't think you could have "screwed" more money out of the firm based on it.

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muddyslush May 4 2007, 17:45:53 UTC
Off-topic, but noticing that quote from the story---what the hell? What does the murder of a child due to delusional religious visions have to do with villagers murdering people due to delusional---never mind, I've answered my own question.

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smarriveurr May 4 2007, 18:01:36 UTC
Yes. The last story is unrelated to the first two in pretty much any way... but internally consistent in that it's about people gruesomely killing each other because of shared religious beliefs and unshared Divine Mandates.

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misslynx May 4 2007, 17:45:31 UTC
Well, this one should certain keep the snark communities hopping for a while...

Seriously, though, both the first two stories sound like the people are claiming persecution when they really got fired for other reasons. In general, there is no good reason to be constantly spouting off about religion at work, regardless of whether you're pagan, Christian, or worship the flying spaghetti monster. If they say "no religious symbols", that means no religious symbols, it doesn't mean no religious symbols except yours because you are a special and unique snowflake and will scream persecution if you have to abide by the same rules as everyone else. Likewise for not discussing religion in the classroom ( ... )

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oakdragon May 4 2007, 17:56:40 UTC
Seriously, though, both the first two stories sound like the people are claiming persecution when they really got fired for other reasons.
One thing to note that the first two articles are not about two people claiming persecution, they are two articles about the same woman.

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rpangel May 4 2007, 18:19:56 UTC
oOOo theres a flying spegetti monster? where? can i meet him?

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gangrel_pri May 4 2007, 18:30:13 UTC
Google Pastafarianism. (And no, I'm not kidding.)

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