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hukbillgoomba April 28 2013, 20:40:22 UTC
It's super annoying on so many levels. My inner geek wants to squee over ALL DAT TARDIS, but the rest is just, urgh.

I mean, the Doctor HAS been manipulative of companions in the past AND HAS BEEN CALLED OUT ON IT AND STOPS. My favourite is Seven and Ace. The pivotal story is The Curse of Frenric where the Doctor has all these plots and schemes but he underestimates Ace and she is cleverer than he thought and so puts a spanner in the works of his plan. He gets annoyed, but Ace fires back at him.

"Ace: You know what's going on.
The Doctor: Yes.
Ace: You always know. You just can't be bothered to tell anyone. It's like it's some kind of a game and only you know the rules. You knew all about that inscription being a computer programme, but you didn't tell me! You know about that old bottle and you're not telling me! Am I so stupid ( ... )

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nobleplatypus April 28 2013, 20:58:56 UTC
Considering that Moffat's approach to the show has been compared to Classic Who (because it's fun and scary and there's less of that emotional nonsense!), it's kind of hilarious to me how easy it is to look back and say, "No, actually, even Classic Who was willing to deal with this shit in a more meaningful way than Moffat ever bothers to."

I also think the whole "the Doctor must hold all the cards at all times" thing would annoy me less if he actually did something with the cards he was holding. It's not as if being cagey has actually helped him figure out the Mystery That Is Clara, so what purpose is served by being cagey? He's keeping his companions in the dark just for the sake of it, not because it's part of some grand plan he has brewing.

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hukbillgoomba April 28 2013, 21:41:45 UTC
Yeah, comparing it to classic Who is problematic. I think, aesthetically, there may be a point. 11 has more of an old school DW look to him, as does the console room and some of the monsters. Even some of the stories have a sort of 80s Who feel to them occasionally. But, no. Take a look at some of the classic stories and they are SO much more complex. Yes, they often have four episodes to flesh characters out, but you get so much more for your time ( ... )

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philosophercat April 29 2013, 14:18:12 UTC
Yeah, it's a bit sad when the Doctor goes to a psychic first before asking his companion directly...

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veronica_rich April 28 2013, 22:41:31 UTC
Aww. Bummer. Haven't seen it yet but am caught up before this episode and I was liking the semi-season with Clara so far.

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philosophercat April 29 2013, 14:05:31 UTC
To be fair, Clara was awesome in this episode up until the annoying reset. And the TARDIS library porn was most welcome.

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nobleplatypus April 29 2013, 22:49:05 UTC
TRUTH. That's why the time reset was especially annoying to me, too. She was doing so well, dang it!

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philosophercat April 29 2013, 23:44:12 UTC
I was really looking forward to the fallout. How/why she would stay in the TARDIS after all of this, a distrustful companion who knows the Doctor's ~big secret~. The problem of keeping her on could be solved with some borrowing from Tegan's story arc. Perhaps that initial damage in the last episode was enough to put something out of whack so they can't return to Clara's time, perhaps.

But no, no. A 'it was all a dream' ending is fine too, I guess.

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padparadscha April 29 2013, 22:13:37 UTC
I am only here to say that I love your icon just for the crossover reference. (And also, do you still like Five? Because he totally has a cameo in this book I love and I think of you every time he shows up.)

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nobleplatypus April 29 2013, 22:48:07 UTC
I will ALWAYS love Five. ♥

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