DPP: Daybreak

[witherwings]

Comments

[wicked_sassy]

I've only seen the entire show once--I borrowed the first season on DVD from the library and promptly spent many hours indoors blasting through the whole series. So I haven't rewatched it yet and haven't formed as coherent of a response as many other folks.

That said, I hated the way they ended Kara's storyline and left Lee to go do his mountain-climbing whateverthefrak. Um, no, TPTB. Kara post-Maelstrom as an angel/ god-toy/ destiny-fulfilling whatever? That didn't work for me at all. DO NOT LIKE THE POOF. I like fics that rewrite the ending to something else more satisfying.

I also really found the bit in New York City with HeadSix and Baltar beyond cheesy and grandiosely self-serving.

Yes, I’ll take the OTHER side of this.

[kag523]

Okay, guys, I’m going to jump off the edge here which (I know, I know) none of you are expecting ;)

So here’s my take on things.

First - I don’t disagree with any of your concerns. If you ship Kara / Lee this ending of the series is the end. It leaves our two favourite characters in a place where there ISN’T a possibility of a happy ending... they cannot be together, and Lee is left alone and bereft in the field. It still tears me apart to watch that scene from Daybreak... and while I love many aspects of the finale, that scene still guts me every time. In fact, I feel raw even talking about it.

*SOBS*

And NOW the rest of my thoughts...

I STILL LOVED MARK’S COMMENTARY.

The general rage that Mark might not feel the same things as me (or you) bothers me. It does. And I'll tell you why... the truth is, for all intents and purposes, he isn’t watching the same show as you. Mark didn’t ship Kara / Lee; he shipped Adama / Roslin. So for us to expect him to have the same emotional response to the series’ ending isn’t fair. I

Re: Yes, I’ll take the OTHER side of this.

[cosetteferaud]

I’ll be very brief because I don’t have much time to discuss sadly, but I am dropping my two cents. I definitely see your point. Anyway, I have to say, the thing that bothers me about Mark’s review is that he doesn’t seem to be critical or analytic. He doesn’t question anything and goes along with everything RDM and company gave us. Which is Ok, everyone is entitled to have their own opinions and I respect that, but I can’t take his review too seriously, frankly. As for the shipping factor as a crucial point in everyone’s taking on the finale? Well, that’s true to a certain extent. I was not happy with Kara and Lee’s ending and I would definitely have been more emotionally satisfied with a real closure for them, but the BSG ending, on a narrative level, had much bigger problems than that in my opinion.

Re: Yes, I’ll take the OTHER side of this.

[kag523]

Thank you for jumping in Cosette! Woot! And I actually love many of your comments here - in particular: the BSG ending, on a narrative level, had much bigger problems than that in my opinion. I would love to hear more about that!

In fact, when I was putting together my post, I was actually thinking about some brilliant meta I'd read regarding the ending of Kara Thrace. I know one was Ray's, and I think(???) the other was yours... Do you have a link to that? Because I think you actually summarized many of my feelings about her ending.

Re: Yes, I’ll take the OTHER side of this.

[kag523]

Here's Ray's brilliant argument regarding Kara's ending. She has said it far better than I could.

http://rayruz.livejournal.com/356046.html

[kballgetlost]

Oooh boy....well ok I'll dive right in with the unpopular opinion here

[ninety6tears]

You aren't completely alone, heheh. I was seriously upset about Daybreak but I've made my peace with it, I don't feel like I'm still mourning the disbanding of Kara/Lee, etc. I have to state that it's probably easier for me because I don't tend to ship for the endgames like most other people seem to. Sure, I usually HOPE that the pairings I like will end up happy together but in many cases I'm attracted to shipping characters who have flaws or have really complicated relationships and that I have to accept may not actually end up together and possibly sometimes even shouldn't. Still, I didn't think Kara/Lee was 100% a pipe dream and the show made me feel like they were so close to actually having the potential to choose each other right up before it shot down the possibility...and kiling my favorite character was only pouring salt on the wound

[kballgetlost]

I understand what you're saying about Maelstrom. Yes it still sucks beyond belief that they actually KILLED Kara. Totally with you on that. But yeah from what we had to work with I really am ok with the finale.

Ahhh well I won't spoil you for Lost! Enjoy, and don't let all the hoopla about the finale make you nervous. You will either like it or you won't....but enjoy the ride it takes you on till you get there!

[cosetteferaud]

With me being only in season three of Lost

Oooh, I didn't know that! I almost spoiled you the other day thinking that you had already watched the whole show! All I can say then is that I hope you enjoy it! (Now I am curious to know what you think about the ending once you get there, hee).

[ninety6tears]

I will always be one of the few who doesn't hate the finale, but I can't imagine being anything other than at least initially shocked and pissed about the poof. It's not only thematically WTF but so damn corny and cliched in its execution, to me there was no room to feel any actual emotion that the story was supposed to make me feel.

[rachelindeed]

I don't have much to add on the finale that hasn't been said before. My feelings on it have fluctuated over time -- initially I thought it was pretty lovely apart from the flashbacks, which almost all bothered me, the K/L ones most of all. The table near-frak just got me down because it made me spend my last ever minutes with these characters feeling disappointed in them, and it also cheapened their feelings for each other in my eyes. It took what had up to that point been presented as a believable long-term attraction based on friendship, comradeship, simmering frustration and attraction that was physical but more importantly the outgrowth of knowing each other as individuals over the long haul, and it replaced all those emotionally genuine foundations with a sort of bogus TV-trope instant overwhelming attraction as forbidden strangers (I can't resist your mysterious attraction!) that I found off-putting

[kag523]

Thank you for that link, R! I'd never seen them before, as I came into fandom post-finale. :)