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matgb in no_lj_ads

Stat tracking and Brad leaving

Aug 08, 2007 09:13

Livejournal usage continues to slowly decline. insomnia's post here from last december continues to attract new comments and the statistics continue to be updated. In addition, pyrop has posted a graphical representation of these stats on their own journal. Here's a key graphic:
( Graph showing decline in LJ usage statistics )

statistics, lj statistics, blogging, staff talking

Comments 52

e_richard August 8 2007, 09:52:36 UTC

This really makes my heart sink.

I've been a paid user since early 2002 and I've personally seen the climate around here change for the worse, especially lately. I really love what LiveJournal promised it would always be to it's users back then.

Goddammit, brad.

mskala August 8 2007, 12:12:54 UTC

I hope it's not too far off-topic to mention here, but I think I've figured out an important issue a lot of people are missing regarding the recent conflict between 6A and fandom.

av8rmike August 8 2007, 15:30:37 UTC

Excellent post. This may be getting even further off-topic, but there's the issue that's even larger still: the Web is not the lawless Wild West people want it to be, whether you're talking about fanfic, art based on trademarked characters, (non-)child porn, or music/movie piracy. Those who provide the space and means for people to post content are sooner or later going to tell you what they will not allow to be posted. And, it's not "censorship", they are within their right to do so.

insomnia August 8 2007, 16:13:40 UTC

"Excellent post..."

Except, of course, for the glaring inaccuracies about what the laws regarding pornographic illustrations actually are.

His analysis of the legality of such materials is highly flawed. While pornographic photographic images of any minor are illegal in the United States, there are no laws in the U.S. against pornographic illustrations of minors... only laws against pornographic illustrations of those who are pre-pubescent.

There has been talk, mind you, and attempts were made by Congress to make laws tougher during the Bush administration by going against virtual child pornography -- video/ photographic images which appear to depict sex with a minor, which is why Jeremy Irons' "Lolita" is being seen as a litmus test as to the constitutionality of such laws, but the standards for illustrations remain the same ( ... )

av8rmike August 8 2007, 17:31:41 UTC

I'm not sure why you wrote that whole thing to me and to mskala, but anyway... It seems to me that all the talk about legality from 6A is just a red herring and clouding the issue. They should have claimed the first round of Strikethrough was from copyright violations, but even then it was too heavy-handed, and word had gotten out about the pressure from the WfI people. No one would have believed them, just as no one does now.

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clipdude August 8 2007, 16:17:29 UTC

I wish people would stop bugging brad about this. Yes, we can justifiably be upset that LJ has gone back on its promises to be ad-free, but I don't ever remember brad committing to be in charge of this site forever.

foxfirefey August 8 2007, 16:58:30 UTC

Agreed. However, he needs to take "I'm now in San Francisco working for Six Apart, where I continue to run LiveJournal with the rest of the Danga crew." out of his profile--he says he hasn't worked on LJ for a year. Appearing as the white knight come to soothe the frantic masses on the sponsored community issue (and say silly things that would get discarded like how sponsored content was considered ads) did little to combat the perception that he's a go to person for upsetting problems. I'm not surprised that people still are under the impression that he could actually achieve a resolution, given those things.

matgb August 8 2007, 19:57:52 UTC

In case you haven't subbed/noticed, I thought I'd let you know ~I've edited into the post some stuff about the discussion this has become, rather than the topic it initially started as; LMK if it's too much and I'll take it out again.

A little busy with comments elsewhere to be reading and replying to everything here as well.

foxfirefey August 8 2007, 20:54:32 UTC

People will discuss what's important to them, and I'm okay with that as long as they're not trying to carry on that discussion in macros and senseless flaming, although I do admit that sometimes things around here get a bit more critical to persons than I like. The legality issue is definitely a big deal that helps to determine LJ's business operations and motivations, and as such I consider it on topic, as I do with business developments of Six Apart outside of LJ, even if ads themselves are no where in sight. People are certainly citing and linking to us at this time ( ... )

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ex_uniquewo August 8 2007, 21:56:09 UTC

Congratulations! :)

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ex_uniquewo August 8 2007, 22:46:34 UTC

Ha! It's too late, now. You can't relurk. Relurkage is totally impossible. You've commented and I've unscreened your comment. We KNOW you're here, watching and reading from the shadows.

:P *off to take her med*