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ex_uniquewo in no_lj_ads

OT: about the Navigation Strip

Jul 12, 2006 17:17

Since it seems that the Navigation Strip was turned on for everybody today or yesterday, here is a reminder:

You can disable it by going to the Viewing Options page and unchecking the two boxes below 'Navigation strip display options ( Read more... )

navigation strip

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foxfirefey July 12 2006, 17:09:49 UTC

Add a wee explicit bit to help people turn it off for their communities, as well, maybe?

ex_uniquewo July 12 2006, 17:15:43 UTC

Better?

foxfirefey July 12 2006, 17:16:27 UTC

You're aces.

tallblue July 12 2006, 17:18:33 UTC

I run the script so it was showing up for a fraction of a second then disappearing, I am using the beta interface (I do like it) and I could not find how to turn it off, so I looked through the FAQ. I wonder if new people will just think its permanent?

ex_uniquewo July 12 2006, 17:23:33 UTC

Some of them do complain anyway. Not a good day for volunteers me thinks.

burr86 July 12 2006, 18:24:21 UTC

People who had it auto-turned-on get a note in the top right corner with info on how to configure/remove it, to avoid that exact problem.

tallblue July 12 2006, 20:40:15 UTC

I could swear you warned us about this?

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carmentalis July 12 2006, 18:18:34 UTC

Thanks for the post; in the beta interface it was close to impossible to find out where to change the settings for the navigation bar.

I wonder if it's too much to hope that the current influx of support requests to be able to get rid of the bar everywhere are going to make LJ finally give us that option. I'm running the CSS to keep it from appearing, but it would be much nicer if there were a solution on the LJ end of things.

ex_uniquewo July 12 2006, 18:26:43 UTC

You're welcome :)

I don't think so. Their reasoning is that making it viewable by other users on your journal is the same thing as selecting a layout. If you don't like say... Disjointed and someone has decided to use it as a layout there's little you can do about it. It does make sense after all. The only exception to that rule is ?style=mine and a suggestion has just been made to apply it to the Navigation Strip as well. You may want to go give your opinion. :)

foxfirefey July 12 2006, 18:30:06 UTC

Their reasoning is that making it viewable by other users on your journal is the same thing as selecting a layout.

That's false reasoning by their own reasoning, because if that was the reason, folks would be able to select the Nav Strip to be off for their journal, even if the viewer had "View it on all journals" turned it on. This isn't the case. (Granted, you can use S2 or CSS styling to turn it off on your journal, no matter what, but that's hardly a real option and more of a hack.)

If the viewer can select the Nav Strip to be on, no matter what the style preference of the journal, the viewer should be able to select the Nav Strip to be off, no matter what the style preference of the journal.

ex_uniquewo July 12 2006, 18:35:31 UTC

I agree. That's why I have blocked it in most of my journals. I want them to be viewed the way I've coded them.

"If the viewer can select the Nav Strip to be on, no matter what the style preference of the journal, the viewer should be able to select the Nav Strip to be off, no matter what the style preference of the journal."

But your logic and my logic and their logic are 10 different things, aren't they? We've seen that many times already.

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Way Over their Heads? ex_uniquewo July 12 2006, 18:46:26 UTC

*sigh* I don't think they expected such strong, negative reactions so they may have trouble dealing with the wave of comments. But hey! they wanted to know what people thought of it so...

Re: Way Over their Heads? burr86 July 12 2006, 20:42:31 UTC

Oops, no, my bad -- see http://community.livejournal.com/no_lj_ads/27875.html?thread=475107#t475107

Re: Way Over their Heads? ex_uniquewo July 12 2006, 20:48:57 UTC

My inner insomniac suspects you lack sleep. :)

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ex_shattered767 July 13 2006, 20:27:34 UTC

July's newspost is still MIA - whoever happens to be reading this, I would like to suggest that it include a short explanation as to why people are seeing the nav bar and how to turn it back off.

Jesus Christ! ex_uniquewo July 14 2006, 17:11:05 UTC

First sensible, honest, actually informative answer ever:
http://www.livejournal.com/support/see_request.bml?id=612102

Now that is Support. I wish everybody up there would read that.

Re: Jesus Christ! ex_shattered767 July 14 2006, 17:52:08 UTC

Honest?!

"Unfortunately, information on users who tried the navigation strip and decided they didn't like it wasn't stored, due to an error in recording user preferences."

That's quite a bit different from the reality of "We can't tell if unchecked boxes means you want it off or you don't know how to turn it on, so we'll turn it on anyhow."

Sensible, yes. Informative, okay. But honest? Heck no.

Re: Jesus Christ! ex_uniquewo July 14 2006, 17:57:32 UTC

But it was my understanding, and from what I've seen at changelog I think it's true, that it is what happened. Now when you uncheck those boxes, it records that you said "no".

Am I missing something here?

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