Ok seriously? That second review had me LOL-ing all over the place.
People like that need to stop embarrassing the religion(any religion). It's cos of people like that that the world is so fragged up in the first place. Oi *insert Frenzy head-thunk here*
I think people tend to forget that Mary herself was ZOMG SIXTEEN when she gave birth to Jesus, when they go harping on about teen pregancies and morals and all that slag. Fair enough, though, like you said the only difference was that she was married at the time. Arranged marriages for teenagers still happen today in countries like India and Pakistan - just to name a couple.
Reviewer needs to get his/her head out of the pile of shit they've stuck it into.
And don't forget that she was unwed when pregnant. That was the part that always annoyed me. We're supposed to shun pregnant, unwed teenage mothers... Like Mary...
Actually...? No. No, Christians are not supposed to shun unwed mothers. That was my point. Christians aren't really supposed to shun anyone. Not unwed mothers. Not gay people. Not atheists. Not murderers. Not heathens. Not the pedophile who rapes your son. Not people who put their pants on left-leg-first instead of right-leg-first. Sure, some of those people are easier to deal with than others. But the point is that God shuns no one. He offers His love to all human beings equally, regardless of what they've done, for we are ALL, every last one of us, His children. We as Christians, who profess to be followers of Jesus, should ideally do no less than He would. The problem, of course, is that we are mere human beings
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Forgive me, what I said was meant in a joking manner. Mewa culpa, I did not put anything to indicate that. It was something that was always said as a joke between a few of us at CCD. "I want to be like Mary when I grow up." "What, a pregnant, unwed teenage mother-to-be?"
You're right about Christians that pull themselves into this little Christian bubble and in doing so, pull their kids in. They find it much harder to relate with non-Christians and see things from the other person's shoes. It creates a pretty noticeable rift between people sometimes that can have things quickly misunderstood and judged. I've run into and seen these things first hand, especially in high school with a few of my Christian friends who have lived the more sheltered Christian life. In a high school that's highly atheist and slightly polarized against it in the extreme views of Christianity that they've seen and are familiar with.
I with people would remember how tolerating yet loving Jesus was. He wasn't quick to condemn people (unless they were hypocrites). He reached out in an understanding way, not accusing or demanding. Gives a new sense to WWJD?
Heh. If they're spouting tripe, it's probable that they're a (hopefully) well-meaning but totally misled Christian. :) Whereas Christians who have their heads screwed on right (and my cynical opinion is that there are few of those)? Goodness, you might not be able to tell them from an Evil Pagan
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Part 2, because I have much wind... ;)nightwind69July 26 2007, 16:38:44 UTC
What I meant by having relationships with people is simply living in the world, even if it's just the online world, associating with people of all kinds and all beliefs. Christians are supposed to live in the world but not be of the world. In other words, we're supposed to be in the world, not hiding in a safe Christian cave, but not necessarily letting the world influence us. But if one doesn't understand the world and live in it, it causes the disconnect of which I spoke, a huge barrier to evangelism of any sort
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Now that I've seen the movie, and thus can comment...ravenclaw_deviAugust 1 2007, 20:28:52 UTC
Thank you for your sane words! Honestly, the Transformers movie is about the last movie I'd get worked up about regarding sexual content, especially given the PG-13 rating. Sam (my fingers keep wanting to type "Spike", heh) and Mikaela didn't even kiss other than during the ending (where they also had a baby); and there's obviously a time gap between the main part of the movie and the ending, i.e. we can assume that by the time of said ending, they were legal adults with steady jobs and quite possibly married. So it's not like the movie is "ZOMG endorsing teen pregnancy!" or anything.
Re: Now that I've seen the movie, and thus can comment...nightwind69August 2 2007, 16:07:29 UTC
Actually, the baby wasn't Sam and Mikaela's but Captain Lennox's and his wife's. I admit it might be hard to tell, given that the characters are silhouetted against a sunset, but that's supposed to be the big "Lennox family reunion." The end of the movie is very rushed, so it does go by fast, in a blur. :)
I do think some time has passed since the Big Battle at the end of the movie, but not that much. :) Still, the movie, no matter how you slice it, isn't really a advertisement for wanton teen sex, no. *rolls eyes*
But yeah, these people like to make mountains out of molehills. And if there aren't any molehills around, they'll make them, too. :) If I look at practically ANY movie on that site, outside of the approved "Christian" ones, there is always at least one "reviewer" (usually a lot more) insisting that the movie's sole purpose of existence is to encourage teens to have sex. It is, quite obviously, their crusade, the single rallying issue upon which they've become fixated, no doubt encouraged by the Christian "authorities" to
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Re: Now that I've seen the movie, and thus can comment...skyknightxiAugust 6 2007, 15:22:21 UTC
{sigh} You'd think they'd realize that there's a reason why lust is regarded as the least of the Seven Cardinal Vices (or next-to-last; it and gluttony keep getting swapped). Why aren't they more worried about the three greatest Vices--wrath, envy, pride--with that measure? Is it just that lust is the easiest of the seven to detect
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Re: Now that I've seen the movie, and thus can comment...skyknightxiAugust 6 2007, 21:05:38 UTC
All right, I found the original book--Shane Johnson's "The Last Guardian"--and can therefore transcribe the relevant parts. We don't get the mention of stars until fairly late, but considering the reach of the main topic...
Though it is not widely known, most of the European scientific community has now abandoned the long-held concept of "spontaneous generation," a cornerstone tenet of the theory of evolution. It is both mathematically and scientifically impossible for amino acids to have combined by chance to form rudimentary DNA, and these scholars finally realize that fact. A void has resulted--how else could life have come into being? To fall back on "panspermia," the theory that microbial life on Earth originally came from outer space via meteorite, would only move the problem one step back--where did that life come from?
(And right now, I'm thinking that creationism does no better. Instead of foisting the quandary onto the meteorite, it foists the quandary onto God. Some solution...)
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People like that need to stop embarrassing the religion(any religion). It's cos of people like that that the world is so fragged up in the first place. Oi *insert Frenzy head-thunk here*
I think people tend to forget that Mary herself was ZOMG SIXTEEN when she gave birth to Jesus, when they go harping on about teen pregancies and morals and all that slag. Fair enough, though, like you said the only difference was that she was married at the time. Arranged marriages for teenagers still happen today in countries like India and Pakistan - just to name a couple.
Reviewer needs to get his/her head out of the pile of shit they've stuck it into.
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Forgive me, I did mean it as a joke.
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I with people would remember how tolerating yet loving Jesus was. He wasn't quick to condemn people (unless they were hypocrites). He reached out in an understanding way, not accusing or demanding. Gives a new sense to WWJD?
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I do think some time has passed since the Big Battle at the end of the movie, but not that much. :) Still, the movie, no matter how you slice it, isn't really a advertisement for wanton teen sex, no. *rolls eyes*
But yeah, these people like to make mountains out of molehills. And if there aren't any molehills around, they'll make them, too. :) If I look at practically ANY movie on that site, outside of the approved "Christian" ones, there is always at least one "reviewer" (usually a lot more) insisting that the movie's sole purpose of existence is to encourage teens to have sex. It is, quite obviously, their crusade, the single rallying issue upon which they've become fixated, no doubt encouraged by the Christian "authorities" to ( ... )
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Though it is not widely known, most of the European scientific community has now abandoned the long-held concept of "spontaneous generation," a cornerstone tenet of the theory of evolution. It is both mathematically and scientifically impossible for amino acids to have combined by chance to form rudimentary DNA, and these scholars finally realize that fact. A void has resulted--how else could life have come into being? To fall back on "panspermia," the theory that microbial life on Earth originally came from outer space via meteorite, would only move the problem one step back--where did that life come from?
(And right now, I'm thinking that creationism does no better. Instead of foisting the quandary onto the meteorite, it foists the quandary onto God. Some solution...)
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