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or_mabinogi May 24 2012, 15:39:50 UTC
I want to see that fanart!

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nialla42 May 25 2012, 13:54:48 UTC
Tumblr seems to be the place to go for the fan art, but the hard part is finding the best ones to follow to see it.

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aelfgyfu_mead May 24 2012, 16:51:52 UTC
The use of stills there is funny. I especially like the facial expression to go with "My bodily proportions are quite flattering. . ."

I know we keep talking about this, Nialla, but I still can't believe anyone asked Benedict Cumberbatch in an interview about fan stuff! He was an awfully good sport about it. I find it not at all hard to imagine Martin showing this stuff to Benedict and the two of them snickering and snickering over it. But that's not the point! The point is that you don't ask this stuff of the actors!

At least they didn't hand him some to read. I saw an interview where the host handed Ralph Fiennes some Harry/Voldemort story to read, and I got a few seconds into it and had to close the window because I wanted to jump out of my skin. You're interviewing Ralph Fiennes, and you have nothing better to do than have him read slash on the air? You get paid to do interviews?

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nialla42 May 25 2012, 14:09:12 UTC
I was uncomfortable with mentioning fannish stuff to actors ~20 years ago when fans did it, and it's even worse that reporters are picking up on it. Being online let us all find each other, but so can the reporters who have little understanding of what it's all about ( ... )

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aelfgyfu_mead May 25 2012, 17:54:51 UTC
Old fogies of fandom, unite! You've put your finger on what I didn't articulate very well. It seems terribly unfair to the actors to put them on the spot, to confront them with fanworks and ask them to react. It's one thing if Martin Freeman chooses to go looking for stuff, and even if he inflicts it on Benedict Cumberbatch with little warning; they weren't performing for an audience there, it was one actor having fun with another. It's entirely different when someone asks Benedict in front of a camera what he thinks or hands pages to Ralph Fiennes to read to an audience.

I wasn't at the con where Michael Shanks first noticed that people were wearing t-shirts with a manipulated image that looked like Daniel and Jack on the verge of kissing, but I saw a transcript-he was talking and then trailed off and had to ask someone if that was what he was really seeing on the shirt. He seemed to handle it with good humor, but what if part of him was going "ick"? What of the stars of Supernatural, confronted with the kinds of fanfiction (RPF, ( ... )

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kaleecat May 26 2012, 03:55:45 UTC
Sorry, had to jump in because I feel so strongly about this. quoting you: The actors should not be asked to react to fan creations of any kind; even perfectly inoffensive ones can leave an actor in the position of passing judgment on a fan's talents when that fan obviously invests effort in supporting the show or character or actor. To be asked to react to anything more than that really violates the actor's privacy. We can choose not to read or look at fanworks of any or all kinds; to force such materials on an actor, especially in a public or interview setting, denies him or her that choice.

Absolutely positively YES to this. The actors are playing a character, their investment is different than ours. It is a violation of personal boundaries & privacy to shove fanfiction or fan created art in their face or to ask point blank about it especially if those creations present the characters in a sexual manner that was never explicitly presented in on-screen canon. Just as I can choose what fanfic I read, the actor should have the ( ... )

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ldyanne May 24 2012, 23:59:34 UTC
ROFLOL!

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lt_kitty May 25 2012, 02:42:16 UTC
LOL.

Have you seen http://asofter221b.tumblr.com/

It's a mashup of the webcomic A Softer World and Sherlock. HILARIOUS. And mostly slashy.

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nialla42 May 25 2012, 14:10:28 UTC
Hadn't seen that one. I'm still trying to find my way around Tumblr. As a person with some OCD issues and as a librarian, I want to organize the hell out of it where I can find things! ;)

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kaleecat May 25 2012, 05:03:00 UTC
ROFL

excellent cap choices. Are the ones of John actually from the show I wonder, or a behind the scenes thing? Regardless, perfect!!

And I get all drooly over Sherlock in that blue dressing gown.
*swoon*

I watched the 60-min pilot the other night. Very interesting the differences & subtle changes to character interactions, not to mention the plot changes.

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nialla42 May 25 2012, 14:14:25 UTC
I always get a laugh out of the scene where he's in the dressing gown and firing at the wall, because apparently Benedict managed to shoot a hole in it with a blank.

The different pilots are so much the same, yet those subtle differences are very interesting and into something different. There were a few character motivations that were clearer to me after seeing the pilot. They may have changed things, but it still gave me some "Oh, so that's why they did that!" reactions.

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kaleecat May 26 2012, 03:44:36 UTC
- I *love* that scene, knowing that tidbit makes it even better.

- ::nods head:: exactly. Plus Sherlock is a bit ?softer?more approachable? with John at times in the original pilot. But so very glad the expansion/changes/rewrite meant that we get Mycroft Holmes. Because I so love the little conversation at the end about how he worries.

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nialla42 May 27 2012, 15:27:59 UTC
Mycroft definitely added a lot to the story. The first time I watched it and he'd spirited John away for a chat, there was a mystery about that made me wonder if maybe they were going to have John meet Moriarty before the Big Game commenced.

Sherlock did seem a bit more human. And the cabbie got him into the cab thanks to drugging him, not by teasing his brain and ego with the idea of solving the mystery of why everyone else accepted the challenge.

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