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Also left this comment in xiphias's journal... micheinnz August 27 2007, 19:43:50 UTC
Interesting that you got two different haka there.

The one in the first video is the All Blacks' Haka, composed just for them, called Kapa o Pango.

The one in the second video is Ka Mate, written by Te Rauparaha, a chief of Ngati Toa, after he escaped from a group of men who were trying to kill him.

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Re: Also left this comment in xiphias's journal... nex0s August 27 2007, 19:44:51 UTC
Excellent! Thanks :D

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d_h August 28 2007, 00:28:10 UTC
The haka isn't really a war dance (though it can be) it would be better described as a forcefully-getting-your-point-across performance, which includes war dances, Ka Mate (which is very much 'you tried to kill me but couldn't so I scorn you') and others such as the prohibition haka - see http://folksong.org.nz/kirimi_poropeihana/

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irisjaye August 29 2007, 13:36:32 UTC
This is great! Thank you for posting this, and for your thoughts.

As for the greater discussion, I think the Greeks had some things right as a society, among them the dramatization of rage through sports and violent entertainment. Hmm, sounds like the US.

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