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Next Steps

Jun 01, 2007 17:31

Hello again.

I want to update you on the status of correcting the issues that occurred earlier this week:

First, all journals and communities that were suspended that did not clearly violate community policies have been restored. Over the weekend and into the next couple of weeks we will be doing the following:

We will contact each user whose journal ( Read more... )

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What all of this illustrates naqerj June 2 2007, 01:18:32 UTC

Indeed.

This whole thing, to me, proves a few things:

1. There are people for whom LiveJournal is, in fact, The World™, and so they react to any impingement upon that world as a Violation of Human Rights™. God forbid that any of them should ever step outside into 3D space and get looked at funny by someone. It gets even odder considering that the overwhelming majority of LJ users are on the site for free, using the resources paid for by other people.

2. I don't think a lot of the whiners really realize that pedophilia is such an explosive issue that anything less than an almost instant reaction to accusations of enabling it can utterly destroy a business, a career, a life, etc. It's better that one monster gets caught and a few other folks get their LJs suspended for a few days than that monster be allowed for one more second to use LJ to conduct his evil ( ... )

Re: What all of this illustrates syntheticjesso June 2 2007, 01:27:55 UTC

Word.

Re: What all of this illustrates smarriveurr June 2 2007, 01:30:57 UTC

*applause*

Well said.

Re: What all of this illustrates lilacwitchtea June 2 2007, 01:33:28 UTC

Could not have said it any better.

Re: What all of this illustrates thisresonance June 2 2007, 01:33:31 UTC

Wordy McWord to that.

Re: What all of this illustrates your_downfall June 2 2007, 01:36:19 UTC

I definitely agree that LJ has the right to suspend accounts of people violating the ToS (such as people writing about pedophilic acts), but it's also important to have these actions be transparent for the public, and if it is someone talking about something such as pedophilia/rape/incest etc and having committed it, the action should be taken including appropriate law enforcement teams ( ... )

Re: What all of this illustrates naqerj June 2 2007, 01:44:47 UTC

They do seem to be doing more research in the "aftermath." Part of my point was that accusations of this nature don't generally allow one much time to react, as they can fly through the media with the speed of a crashing business model.

Of course, if LJ were arresting people and taking away their civil rights, then perhaps more research before acting might be in order. But instead we're talking about a mostly free service on the Internet. The world is not over and your name is not slandered if you mistakenly get your LiveJournal account suspended for a few days.

Re: What all of this illustrates thekittywolf June 2 2007, 07:07:59 UTC

I'm with your_downfall, although I see your point. I don't REALLY see this as a violation of my freedom of speech, and that's not why I'm annoyed. What I have a problem with was not the fact that they had to suspend some innocent journals ( ... )

Re: What all of this illustrates your_downfall June 3 2007, 01:12:55 UTC

I think what bothers most people is the idea behind it... that it could become something bigger (like the taking away civil rights that you mentioned). But I definitely agree, it's been blown out of prorportion.

Re: What all of this illustrates beyondrecovery June 2 2007, 01:59:21 UTC

I do agree with you that the majority of people are being ridiculous about this. "Zomg you took my smutty fanfics away CENSORSHIP CENSORSHIP." Ugh. It makes everyone who has a legitimate problem with the way this was handled look silly as well.

Yes, totally. I do think that some people have some legitimate points. But so many people are being COMPLETE asswipes about this whole thing, and while I don't feel LJ behaved well, I don't think many of the responses to this whole thing are appropriate either.

Re: What all of this illustrates your_downfall June 3 2007, 01:18:17 UTC

I completely agree. *sighs* Why is reason such a hard thing to come by? ;) Oh well. It'll blow over, and hopefully there will be a positive solution.

Re: What all of this illustrates sunburn June 2 2007, 05:41:56 UTC

First of all, "capitalist nutjobs" is a better name because voicing an opinion to the advertisers is one of the market solutions for a misbehaving corporate entity. (Socialist nutjobs will propose further regulation, because by the heavens we sure do need to involve the government, and vanilla nutjobs are no doubt already proposing judicial intervention. In short, let the market sort it out, let the government sort it out, or let the courts sort it out. The geniune "let God sort it out" people don't go to advertisers ( ... )

Re: What all of this illustrates sunburn June 2 2007, 01:55:55 UTC

Ugh, I did my graduate thesis on the Foucauldian relation and used the interstices of dijon mustard and Quartodecimanism as the critical example! Curses! If only I'd gone with my gut and used the mustard aoili in my example instead!

But you're right about the other stuff.

Re: What all of this illustrates naqerj June 2 2007, 02:04:04 UTC

I got yer "interstice" RIGHT HERE, LAN3!

Re: What all of this illustrates varymydays June 2 2007, 02:05:08 UTC

The problem is, is that Live Journal has received accusations of pedophiles in the past and made no instant reaction. I remember reading about one user where an adult literally commented and said that they wanted to have sex with a specific thirteen year old. This person contacted Live Journal, and they received a repsonse that said, Live Journal can do nothing, because talking about illegal acts is not illegal and there is no proof.

They only moved with that "instant reaction" when a bunch of nut jobs threatened to go to their advertisers.

I think most people realize how explosive an issue this is, but I think that we all deserve some consistency here and that such specific threats like that should not be ignored if threats by interest are tended to.

Also, I think if they really wanted to stop pedophilia they should have moved slower. Found those journals that seemed to pose a real threat and contacted the proper authorities who could've actually done something to protect children. What good did suspending those journals do? ( ... )

Re: What all of this illustrates naqerj June 2 2007, 02:20:08 UTC

But it really didn't hurt much of anyone at all, save those for whom having their personal or community LJ suspended for a few days constitutes the imminent Apocalypse.

With any company, but especially with one like LJ, which is only about 8 years old, expecting completely backwards consistency is somewhat unrealistic. Sometimes it takes the imminent threat of a scandal to induce that consistency. No doubt they'll streamline the whole process now. It's hard when you run a site with millions of accounts to know which individual complaints are really worth dealing with. If these recent comments on news illustrate anything, it's that there are many, many people who will say all sorts of ridiculously offensive and irrational things with very little provocation ( ... )

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