Sex scenes with female characters.

[neery]

I just finished reading thingswithwings' very nice John/Rodney genderswap fic, always should be someone you really love. Gendersfuck is pretty much the only way I ever read het or lesbian sex scenes anymore, mostly because I'm not currently in any fandom where there's more than one female character I want to read fiction about

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[anonymous]

I don't often read het, but when I do, I "see" the scene from the POV of the male character.

[neery]

Sometimes I can do that, too, but it doesn't always work. Depends on the sex scene.

[cereta]

Pretty much, yeah. Reading het is generally an exercise in trying and failing to put myself in the woman's head - even when the POV is the man. It's where I feel like I'm "supposed" to be, even if I know better. F/F is a little easier for me because I can situate myself as a woman enjoying a woman's body and not focus as much on whether the reactions match mine, but I'm most comfortable being a voyeur in my sexual fantasies, really.

[neery]

It's very comforting to hear that I'm not the only one. *g*

I have to say that I find F/F even harder to enjoy than het - in het, I can occasionally imagine myself in the man's position, but with F/F, there's just no POV sufficiently distant from my own.

Your icon is insanely hot, btw.

[linaerys]

This is a totally awesome post, and I definitely hear you. I think I see the sex scene from the POV of whoever is the POV character unless the writer does something to take me out of it

[neery]

But Dan Savage did an interesting entry soliciting advice on how to give oral sex to a woman

You don't happen to have a link to that? Sounds interesting.

If the sex scene is done well, then I'm turned on by the fact that the partcipants are turned on and if not, well, it could be exactly what I personally like to do in bed and it won't work for me.

Oh, that, too, definitely - but I'm used to skipping badly-done sex scenes, or even just pointless ones. What still annoys me is this new tendency to get thrown out of even the best sex scene just because I can't suspend disbelief.

but if the writer convincingly has the characters panting for each other, they could like to eat grapes out of each other's belly buttons and it would turn me on.That comment just clarified something for me - see, I'd have no problem whatsoever with something like people getting turned on over grapes in a sex scene. I can totally believe that people are turned on by the weirdest things, and if it's written well, I might get turned on by their reaction to

[linaerys]

I only have a problem with the description of people's physical sensations, not with their mental reactions.Interesting. I've noticed in the sex I've had personally that the mental component is at least half of how good it is, so I'm willing to believe that if someone finds the grape-eating an incredible-turn on, that she's going to have the physical reactions that match

[neery]

so I'm willing to believe that if someone finds the grape-eating an incredible-turn on, that she's going to have the physical reactions that match.

Maybe "reactions" was the wrong word to use here; I can totally believe that it gets her wet, I just can't believe that she feels anything but, um... *imagines having grapes eaten out of belly button*... the slight tickling of lips and teeth on a sensitive part of the body. No actual physical jolt of pleasure, at least not directly from her belly, you know?

Things banging against cervix, OW - never happened to me during actual sex, but the sort of painful in OB/GYN situations where I can't believe that even a much more sexy situation would make the sensation bearable.

I really dislike some other things that are common in het scenes, but I'm sort of trying not to scare people off with too much TMI. *g*

So, yes, less detail is definitely better, in this case.

[20thcenturyvole]

"I'm seriously the only woman on the planet who doesn't like that, huh?

Oh, man, I always have that damn problem. I could have an entire, slightly TMI monologue re: boobies and all their apparent pleasures that I just don't get (y'know, beyond aesthetics). However, I did really like that story, and for the first time in a long while, I didn't rapidly scroll past the lesbian sex scenes, because they made a great deal of sense to me and were very well-characterised. As opposed to, you know, "Ooh, I have girl bits now. I must investigate makeup and penetration immediately!"

[linaerys]

I could join you on that TMI monologue. My boobs fill out my shirts nicely, but other than that, they might as well be my elbow for all the enjoyment they give me. Now, my neck on the other hand.

So. Yeah.

And now I want to read that story.

[neery]

Go read that story, it's really good! Very nice treatment of gender identities, and generally just great writing and a nice John/Rodney characterization. You can always just scroll by the sex scenes if you want, but even those are good, as far as sex scenes that hit too close to home go.

[neery]

The TMI is all over this post already, feel free to join in. *g* Seriously, I'm sort of stumbling all over the fine line between trying to make my point with some sort of demonstrative example, and not telling people things about my sex life they might not want to know. I do have somewhat sensitive boobies, although they don't provide me with the amazing, orgasmic experience often seen in fic; I can more or less suspend disbelief for that, though, because even my own level of enjoyment fluctuates when it comes to boobies.

Now cunnilingus, on the other hand, I dislike intensely, and it baffles me that everyone seems to consider it the height of female pleasure.

[jack_pride]

Does anyone else have that problem?

OMG YES!

[neery]

Hee. Glad not to be alone in this!