Comments | ncis_nostalgia: 2x10: Chained

dhae_knight in ncis_nostalgia

2x10: Chained

Aug 01, 2007 21:44

Heh... well, I'll just join the party now, then in stead of waiting until tomorrow... ;-)

Mmmm... Tony undercover, worried!Gibbs... there's no bad here :-D

Ya know, the first time around, I didn't recognize Tony in that opening? Made for a very confusing start for me... *scratches head*

Heh - the VW for sale. Nope, can't picture Gibbs in a VW ( Read more... )

2x10 - chained

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patty22 August 1 2007, 21:15:57 UTC

Trying to get Gibbs to talk, Kate? About his feelings? Uh... are you sure you're a profiler????

i think it's a women think,even if we know better we have to talk with men about their feelings and about everything else too;-)

MTAC applauding McGee - YES! *punches air* go mcgee

dhae_knight August 2 2007, 05:44:49 UTC

It might be a woman-thing, but I expect Kate to have some psychological insight... Maybe vainly, I know.

At any rate, I'd be supremely surprised, if Gibbs chose Kate to talk to. Abby, I can see. Ducky. Heck, even Tony is more likely to get Gibbs to open up. But Kate? Nope. Not seeing it...

gibozzo August 1 2007, 23:22:40 UTC

I got the impression that Jeffery had a bit of a crush on Tony. (Who wouldn't?)
Thanks fot the Armageddon clip. I hadn't seen that one before.
Gees, our boy gets himself into lots of trouble, doesn't he?

dhae_knight August 2 2007, 05:46:53 UTC

Jeffrey had a king-size crush on Tony. What really creeps me out is that scene with Lane... I kid you not - it makes me *shudder* just thinking about it. :-(

First NCIS-vid I found - and what made me immediately go out and buy season 2, 'cause I could see there were some great scenes I was missing... ;-)

sammie28 August 1 2007, 23:32:54 UTC

Trying to get Gibbs to talk, Kate? About his feelings? Uh... are you sure you're a profiler????

I doubt it has anything to do with what she thinks Gibbs will actually do. Despite what she thinks, she reads Gibbs well enough. In "Reveille" she figured out that Gibbs was going a little bonkers before Tony did, and in "Chained" she's disappointed but certainly not surprised when Gibbs won't.

Her attempts to get him to talk has everything to do with what she thinks Gibbs NEEDS to do, and Gibbs does need to learn to talk things out with people. He tends to store up his anger/emotions until he's about to explode, and it's unhealthy. Ducky mentions Gibbs' similar behavior in "Mind Games" and the like.

Too many of Gibbs' team members - and that includes Tony, imho, but less with Abby and Ducky - let Gibbs do what he wants to do, rather than what he needs to do or ought to do for his own benefit.

dhae_knight August 2 2007, 06:00:50 UTC

I agree about it being something Gibbs needs to do - but I don't think Kate would be his first choice to do it with. In fact, I think she probably ranks right above McGee in the great picture of who he wants to talk to.

In any case, I'm not sure it's good tactics to chose a time when he's under well-reasoned stress to try to make him open up. I think it'd make more sense to start small... mostly because the stronger his emotions, the more tightly he guards them.

I think what I'm trying to say, is that Gibbs won't ever open up to someone he doesn't trust. And I think the only way to get him to trust someone - with his private self - is to push him only very carefully.

sammie28 August 3 2007, 01:29:10 UTC

I agree that Kate wouldn't be Gibbs' first choice. I believe Ducky would be Gibbs' first choice, but again, the problem isn't whom Gibbs would choose, but the fact that he simply won't. In ten years it appears he hasn't talked to Ducky, either. Kate, when she was concerned, went to Ducky in "Enigma" and in "Reveille" to Tony and then to Ducky, and they don't press the issue. And she begins by opening up herself instead of just pressing him ( ... )

dhae_knight August 3 2007, 16:42:10 UTC

Oh, I think he applauds the effort, as well.

And I agree with you entirely on #2... No, I don't think, once Tony is safe, once the crisis is over, that he'd want to talk. I'm just not so sure it's a big issue once the crisis is over, and he gets a little time to deal with it on his own.

Also, I think maybe our differences in opinion has something to do with this: I don't see 'want' and 'need' as separate as you do. Yes, to talk to someone would be good for him... but you'd never, ever get him to admit that. I see him akin to my aunt, who's as stubborn as they come. She has this tendency to get grouchy when she gets tired, but you just try to get her to take a nap during the day. Even if you do manage to get her to do what's good for her, she'll never, ever admit it. She'll just be stubbornly grouchy that you made her do something she didn't want to do, and maintain that she didn't need it ( ... )

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