Thanks for mentioning Yamato connected to the statue of the first Hokage! I completely missed the panel, probably because I read the chapter in a hurry. It's a bit like taken from one of the Alien-movies.
I have reread the chapter now, and another thought that crossed my mind was why they think that they have to ship the jinchuuriki to Kumogakure instead of the head quarters. Would that not have been safer? Of course they did not know the location of Madara's hideout at the time... And why do they have to evacuate the countries? When friendly armies pass through a place they are normally not evacuated, as far as I know. Or do they fear that these countries won't just be a place to march through, but become a battle field? They should hurry then, I think.
victory will be determined by who makes the first moveI sense that this will go wrong
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I am neither really keen on seeing the dead characters again: Curtain calls make sense on stage, but not in a book or manga where it's always possible to get one of the early volumes from the shelf and meet your beloved characters again. It takes from the reality of death - but on the other hand, meeting your beloved characters as Zombies is not great either.
Maybe Kishimoto plans to make Kabuto lose control of them?While Kabuto's dickishness and fondness for mind games should never be underestimated, I have to wonder if his summoning of so many dead characters that hold loyalty to Konoha was done not only for the mind-game potential , but so that at some point he can indeed "lose" control of them
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So you think Sasuke was supposed to take Orochimaru's place after defeating him and become Madara's partner in crimes? Interesting and not so out there. The manga would have gone in a completely different direction for sure.
I never really saw Kabuto as a main villain, so I was surprised that he became Madara's somewhat ally. I'm really enjoying Kabuto's antics now. He's free from Orochimaru and he's definitely his own man. Always knew he had some skills, but now they are presented front and center.
He's really doing a great job of messing with Madara. I'm dieing to find out what he is really up to. Madara is not going to know what hit him...
Have to admit even now, Orochimaru's final end seemed a little off. I was looking for a more definitive ending and yet he still lives (sort of) in Kabuto, who is looking mighty creepy.
Maybe Kishimoto plans to make Kabuto lose control of them?
I'm hoping for something like this. It's a nice twist of poetic justice, to see a villain done in by his own evil. But I think the main reason the plot device has me so excited is because I enjoy the potential angst for characters like Neji and Tsunade. (I can be kind of sadistic toward fictional characters, I admit.)
What keeps me reading the manga is the fact that Naruto is still outside the general plot. He does not participate in the general excitement about the battle. Neither is Sasuke, who is still waiting to be allowed to put down his blind. Yes, and I think this is crucial. As I said in my review, they really do come across as "above it all" here. I don't really consider myself a pacifist per se, BUT I would like to see an outcome for this story in which a non-violent solution--one that represents a real reconciliation, not a fake peace--is shown to be superior to the clash of armies. That's not to say that I don't think Naruto and Sasuke will probably have some
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Re: this is kinda longsenior_witchNovember 7 2010, 14:22:59 UTC
What I mean to say is, Naruto should first accept Sasuke's changed personality
What I mean is that Naruto first should say "I know about the massacre and it was wrong and a horrible crime" and not add any "but"s to it, and then wait how Sasuke will react.
Re: this is kinda long3headedNovember 7 2010, 17:24:30 UTC
dont think Naruto has thought about the option, that maybe during their fight Sasuke will harm people close to him to prove his point.
What I'm a little worried about: Anko's team is short before entering Madara's hideout and Sasuke i there, too. I hope he does not try out his new eyes on the Konohans.
Yay! I was really looking forward to the review this week to see what everyone else thought. When I originally read the end of the chapter I cheered. There is a sick side of me that's looking forward to the angst the zombie wars will bring. I hope there a troop of psychologist-nin around for the aftermath of this thing. Oh boy the emo to come! :D
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Just a short comment because I don't have much time:
Initially I wasn't too fond of the zombies, but I like the idea of a "curtain call", and it's a good opportunity to show how much the new generation has grown. I'm also extremely excited for the next chapters :) It still feels a bit strange that the manga is going to end soon (I've only been in the fandom since the Killer Bee vs team Taka fight)
All those Zetsu clones and zombies are really convenient adversaries for the good guys. They can just kill them off and keep their clean slate, no moral dilemma. Just like Orks or Stormtroopers, nobody needs to feel pity for them.
Since now all of the big ninja villages are united, how much is there left for Naruto to do? The only villains left are not exactly victims of the "eye for an eye" policies of the ninja system, so who's left to convert with his magical Jesus skills, except Sasuke?
Wow. Thanks for the review. I, like so many of you, am also a bit saddened by this very clear final arc. Kishimoto is obviously going to give these revived characters a chance to have their last say, and because Kabuto didn't exert his will on Deidara I can assume that that maybe the case for the others. Wouldn't it be interesting for Itachi to scold Sasuke for what he has done? I really wish that it is Itachi that manages to change Sasuke's mind and not Naruto since I don't see that theres anything that Naruto or anyone else can say that would be effective. I think Sasuke deserves to have this conversation with Itachi. I can't wait for it!
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I have reread the chapter now, and another thought that crossed my mind was why they think that they have to ship the jinchuuriki to Kumogakure instead of the head quarters. Would that not have been safer? Of course they did not know the location of Madara's hideout at the time... And why do they have to evacuate the countries? When friendly armies pass through a place they are normally not evacuated, as far as I know. Or do they fear that these countries won't just be a place to march through, but become a battle field? They should hurry then, I think.
victory will be determined by who makes the first moveI sense that this will go wrong ( ... )
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Maybe Kishimoto plans to make Kabuto lose control of them?While Kabuto's dickishness and fondness for mind games should never be underestimated, I have to wonder if his summoning of so many dead characters that hold loyalty to Konoha was done not only for the mind-game potential , but so that at some point he can indeed "lose" control of them ( ... )
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I never really saw Kabuto as a main villain, so I was surprised that he became Madara's somewhat ally. I'm really enjoying Kabuto's antics now. He's free from Orochimaru and he's definitely his own man. Always knew he had some skills, but now they are presented front and center.
He's really doing a great job of messing with Madara. I'm dieing to find out what he is really up to. Madara is not going to know what hit him...
Have to admit even now, Orochimaru's final end seemed a little off. I was looking for a more definitive ending and yet he still lives (sort of) in Kabuto, who is looking mighty creepy.
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I'm hoping for something like this. It's a nice twist of poetic justice, to see a villain done in by his own evil. But I think the main reason the plot device has me so excited is because I enjoy the potential angst for characters like Neji and Tsunade. (I can be kind of sadistic toward fictional characters, I admit.)
What keeps me reading the manga is the fact that Naruto is still outside the general plot. He does not participate in the general excitement about the battle. Neither is Sasuke, who is still waiting to be allowed to put down his blind. Yes, and I think this is crucial. As I said in my review, they really do come across as "above it all" here. I don't really consider myself a pacifist per se, BUT I would like to see an outcome for this story in which a non-violent solution--one that represents a real reconciliation, not a fake peace--is shown to be superior to the clash of armies. That's not to say that I don't think Naruto and Sasuke will probably have some ( ... )
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What I mean is that Naruto first should say "I know about the massacre and it was wrong and a horrible crime" and not add any "but"s to it, and then wait how Sasuke will react.
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What I'm a little worried about: Anko's team is short before entering Madara's hideout and Sasuke i there, too. I hope he does not try out his new eyes on the Konohans.
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Initially I wasn't too fond of the zombies, but I like the idea of a "curtain call", and it's a good opportunity to show how much the new generation has grown. I'm also extremely excited for the next chapters :) It still feels a bit strange that the manga is going to end soon (I've only been in the fandom since the Killer Bee vs team Taka fight)
All those Zetsu clones and zombies are really convenient adversaries for the good guys. They can just kill them off and keep their clean slate, no moral dilemma. Just like Orks or Stormtroopers, nobody needs to feel pity for them.
Since now all of the big ninja villages are united, how much is there left for Naruto to do? The only villains left are not exactly victims of the "eye for an eye" policies of the ninja system, so who's left to convert with his magical Jesus skills, except Sasuke?
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Kishimoto is obviously going to give these revived characters a chance to have their last say, and because Kabuto didn't exert his will on Deidara I can assume that that maybe the case for the others. Wouldn't it be interesting for Itachi to scold Sasuke for what he has done? I really wish that it is Itachi that manages to change Sasuke's mind and not Naruto since I don't see that theres anything that Naruto or anyone else can say that would be effective.
I think Sasuke deserves to have this conversation with Itachi. I can't wait for it!
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