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[musesfool]

Sigh. I really wanted French fries for dinner, and some honey mustard sauce to dip them in. I was excited about ordering them. They'd be hot and crispy and salty and oily and they would taste so good dipped in honey mustard sauce

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[delle]

did you mean to link the last sentence, or is that your opinion? 'Cos I'm totally behind you on that! Marvel needs to wake up - their fanbase is much, much broader than the 30-50 yr old men that remember Ant-Man fondly (Ant-Man? Seriously? I was a fan of the Legion of Super-Heroes aka the comic that no one remembers and my favorite boy hero was Lightening Lad and there was Duo Damsel and Shrinking Violet - my favorite girl was Saturn Girl - so I can get behind all kinds of various superhero powers but Ant-Man? *SERIOUSLY*?) - and they have both audience interest and probably actor interest to pursue Hawkeye and Black Widow (besides the Iron Man franchise, the Captain America franchise, the Thor franchise and I don't know if they plan to make a solo-Hulk movie but I adore Ruffalo and would go see it even if Hulk isn't my favorite) so why are they wasting their time, their money and their audience on Ant-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy?

[musesfool]

The last sentence is my opinion. Though the article writer didn't think much of Ant-Man either.

so why are they wasting their time, their money and their audience on Ant-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy?

Edgar Wright, for the former, I guess, and the latter ties in with Thanos, who we saw at the mid-credits scene on Avengers. Basically, I don't know, but I don't approve.

[alizarin_nyc]

This is the first time I've not RUN out and bought a book of China's. I believe that he has progressively done more of what you say happened in Railsea:

Delightful worldbuilding and clever metafictional asides by the narrator are cool, but they don't make me love a book, generally speaking.

This perfectly describes his last several books, in my opinion. Even the two that are my benchmarkers for his work - Perdido Street Station and The Scar - did not give enough of their main, most attractive characters. With regard to his most recent creations, you never live IN them and you quickly forget them. But while reading, you're quickly caught up in the cleverness of it all and some of the beauty of the world-building (and the wordbuilding.)

If I may say so. *cough*

[musesfool]

Interesting. Because yes, the wordsmithing is brilliant, and the world building is topnotch, but I just didn't love the characters or feel really invested in them. And I've heard such great things about his writing, too.

[moetushie]

Yep, if they make Ant-Man, it'll be the first MCU movie that I won't see in theaters. Because, ugh, Ant-Man.

[musesfool]

Well, I haven't seen any of the Hulk movies, either, though I might if they did one with Ruffalo, depending. But yeah, ugh. Ant-Man.

[gruskek]

Well, from what I've seen on Tumblr Hank does have some fans. I guess he's one of those characters who got really fucked up writing by several authors, and that overshadows the good unless you dig deeper.

But yes, I do not understand Marvel's logic with making a movie about this dude first instead of about Nat or Clint who have already generated a big fan interest. Plus diversity is apparently not a word the Marvel peeps know. They have so many well loved female and poc characters but it's white dudes all over the place in the movies. And how is a poc or a female lead more risky than a raccoon?

[musesfool]

I know he has fans, but ugh, the character is awful in the incarnations I'm familiar with (Ultimates, A:EMH).

But yes, I do not understand Marvel's logic with making a movie about this dude first instead of about Nat or Clint who have already generated a big fan interest.

My understanding is that this has been in the works on and off for several years, and Edgar Wright will bring in fanboys. But ugh, DNW. Especially when they won't make a Black Widow or Heroes for Hire or Black Panther movie.

[gruskek]

Ha ha, most of his fans that I know of actually like him in 616 for the most part xD

Anyway, to sum it up - the fanboys are getting so pandered to already it's just sad and ridiculous, and things are only getting worse.

And if Marvel really wanted money they'd try to rope in more teens into comics by making a Young Avengers movie. And of course HfH, Black Widow and Black Panther should already be having their second movies if this were a better world.

[gruskek]

Oh apparently there are two Ant dudes. I keep forgetting that, and usually I'm good at remembering legacy heroes.

[misachan]

I enjoy Ant-Man in a very schadenfreude way - I was a big fan of Mighty Avengers at least partially because the book acknowledged what a colossal screw up he is. And at least if the movie does happen we're almost guaranteed to get Janet too. I'm willing to put up with Hank if it results in fic about Janet dragging Natasha to Fashion Week to outfit a new cover identity.

Honestly though, the only reason to have an Ant-Man movie is to set up Ultron as the post-Thanos arc villain. Or even set up Hank as a villain - in the story where he backhands Janet that all happens because she catches him building a robot specifically designed to take out the Avengers in an epically misguided attempt to impress them (he was going to heroically disarm the robot himself, showing his worth to the team. Doesn't work out so well.) I can see that going over even less well in the MCU timeline than it did in 616.

And this is all assuming we're not going to get Ultimates Hank, which...well. Ultimates.

[musesfool]

If they actually do right by Janet. I've never heard her mentioned at all when this comes up, except in a "Is Janet going to be there?" way, so, I don't know if she is.

Honestly though, the only reason to have an Ant-Man movie is to set up Ultron as the post-Thanos arc villain.

Well, I suppose that would work, but ugh. I still have no desire to see a movie about him.