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grbggrl July 6 2008, 15:56:36 UTC
yeah, they really should have shown more of the kiss. Because in the confidential footage you get more of an "ok, they can probably be happy" but in the ep it feels very hollow.

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mtemplar_fic July 6 2008, 19:04:44 UTC
It feels absolutely hollow. And somehow one-sided and wrong. Grrrrrr.

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lil_1337 July 7 2008, 02:38:37 UTC
The whole thing felt wrong from beginning to end. It makes me sad that what had the potential to be something awesome with all the companions fell so flat. And Jackie? WTF? Her being there was the most jarring thing /ever/.

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grbggrl July 7 2008, 05:54:54 UTC
yeah, it just got to the point where they were all there to be there, rather than to forward the story or the characters much. It was all just so random. And just not enough time to do them all justice.

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measi July 6 2008, 15:56:37 UTC
I've told a couple people - the episode didn't make me cry. The Confidential, however, did. And oh, that kiss in the Confidential - I agree that whatever cut DWC was using honestly should have been the print one. The emotion in it was better.

As far as the memories thing - I think the hand gets the post TCI memories when the Doctor directs the artron energy toward it. It gets imbued with his lifeforce.

Very um.. prophetic... your fic was.

Thankfully no daggers involved here. ;)

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mtemplar_fic July 6 2008, 19:07:19 UTC
*nods* I'm secretly hoping for an extended scene when the DVD set is released, but I doubt I'll get it. *grumbles*

And the memories have to get there somehow, I suppose it has to be just another property of artron. And yay for 'regenerative energy' being directed and also able to heal a dalek blast! *grins*

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garpu July 6 2008, 16:15:52 UTC
I'm feeling really down about Donna. I blabbered about it in my LJ, so I"ll spare blathering about it here. But I also wonder if it's permanent, if Tate has more time in the future. (Memories can always be recovered.)

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mtemplar_fic July 6 2008, 19:08:03 UTC
I am too, but it appears there could be an 'out'. Did you see the ring flash thingie? And what is it with RTD and rings?

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garpu July 6 2008, 19:11:37 UTC
Seems like nobody's memories stay gone for long, either...

Hrm, was bugged about the Doctor's characterization, too. I mean, sure, he's a plotting so-and-so, but he's not a bad guy, either. Of course the Daleks are going to think he's Satan incarnate.

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mtemplar_fic July 6 2008, 19:32:32 UTC
*cough*valeyard*cough*

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platypus July 6 2008, 16:21:14 UTC
Well, I think Rose needed to initiate the kiss, since the Doctor had just told her he loved her. He took a step, she took a step. Otherwise, it may have felt like him persuading her, and her being temporarily distracted but not necessarily making the choice. I'd have liked to see more of the mutual kissing back, though. For more than one reason. Ahem.

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mtemplar_fic July 6 2008, 19:09:01 UTC
True, but I still think she put a little too much into it. A smaller kiss would have worked better. And yes on the mutual!

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tzikeh July 6 2008, 17:35:49 UTC
Funny - I've just exported that full kiss scene from the Confidential to DivX and I'm going to post it for people in my lj. Because yes, that's exactly how I felt when i saw the confidential.

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mtemplar_fic July 6 2008, 19:09:18 UTC
Ooooh! Is it downloadable?

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tzikeh July 6 2008, 19:13:40 UTC
I've posted it at YouTube, which is easy to grab from. Drop by my lj :D

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