I've got a baaaaaad feeling about this...

Nov 26, 2012 19:41

Okay.  I've been looking through screencaps of this season, and I noticed something.
picspam under the cut )

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ash48 November 27 2012, 11:36:48 UTC
Oh yes yes.. so awesome.

The idea of bars is really (like omg real!y) fascinating me. I think not only because I think they can signal a sense of being trapped but I every time I see bars I think of his "cage" in Purgatory. Now, it might just be wishful thinking on my part, but if there's any indication that they might be revisiting Sam's cage experience I will be jumping all over it!

Hmmm... I wonder then if that checked wall paper is more about looking like mesh (fencing, cages etc.) and signifying a trapped or caged feeling. Curious....

I think even if everything is above board with Amelia (as in they are real memories etc.) I think all these observations still play into what's going on in Sam's mind. It might look like everything is "normal" and rosy, but instead he's feeling trapped and fenced in.

Damn! I can't wait to find out. It's driving me nuts!

Thanks so much for this. <3

xx

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msdori November 27 2012, 14:44:10 UTC
And it's not just bars, either. There've been several times that we see Sam boxed in by his surroundings--that bit with the picket fence in the season premiere when they're with Kevin, for instance. There's one in "Southern Comfort," too:


... )

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ash48 November 27 2012, 14:56:43 UTC
OH GOD YES!!!

Awesome! \o/

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msdori November 27 2012, 15:03:25 UTC
Oh, and if all these cage visuals really are referring to Sam's time in the cage with Lucifer, or implying that he's still in there (which his vision of Lucifer actually said might be the case), it's entirely possible that they could pull a Dallas and rewind things all the way back to the middle of season six.

They could even have Bobby stepping out of the shower and going, "You dreamed WHAT ALL, now?"

AND I DON'T CARE HOW CRACKY AND UNDERHANDED IT IS, I WOULD BE TOTALLY OKAY WITH THAT, DAMMIT.

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cece_away November 27 2012, 17:36:45 UTC
Msdori, I love this, I do, it's very interesting, but do you ever wonder if you've been thinking too much?

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msdori November 27 2012, 19:07:36 UTC
You know, I get that a lot...

Seriously, though, the set designers and props people and costume guys all tell the story, too. There's not a lot left to chance when you have to think about what signs to put on the walls or how you frame a shot or what disguise the boys are using this week, and because you only have about 42 minutes to tell your story, you have to use everything you put into the frame to convey the stuff that you don't have time to put into dialog or action. So, yeah, I think about this stuff a lot. But the set and costume crews think about it a lot more than I do.

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cece_away November 27 2012, 22:37:01 UTC
And I'm content to let you think about if for me. So I'll leave the brain power to you and just enjoy popping into your posts. *grins*

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msdori November 28 2012, 00:53:12 UTC
Hee! Welcome to the crazy!

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anonymous November 27 2012, 21:06:06 UTC
You've made some good points here. It's difficult not to look at all the these details and still believe they are just accidental. Frames, colors, clothing these all tell the story as much as the action and dialogue. I'm not much of a proponent of the Amelia is not real arguement ,although a lot of the evidence for Sam's memories being hinky is very compelling. Also this season a lot of the plots have to do with different character's perception of not just the world and their circumstances but who they are. These perceptions are guiding the various actions of Crowley, Sam, Dean and even Kevin and Ms. Tran. They all have different perceptions of the world and some people's perceptions turn out to be false (based on innate character traits - Dean's percept. of what happened in Purgatory and his belief that Sam just slacked off for a year ) and some people's perceptions are being actively manipulated ( Cas ( ... )

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msdori November 28 2012, 01:07:17 UTC
I really want to know who it was that was watching Sam leave Amelia's house. I can see Crowley doing that, and I wouldn't put it past him to be manipulating all kinds of stuff to do with Sam and Dean, because, well, Crowley.

I love that Show is playing with our perceptions of how the year went for the boys--Dean's was spent doing what he was trained to do, and he came out of Purgatory better mentally than when he went in, even though it seems like his year was horriffic. But Sam, who seems to have had a normal, everyday life, is possibly more messed up than he was at the end of last season.

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annspal November 28 2012, 01:24:54 UTC
Thanks for dropping a link to this at spnematography.

I am thrilled with you noticing all the doors Sam's been framed in this season. I've been on the lookout for the way the show uses doors since the end of season four when Ruby characterized what Sam did as "opening a door." I hope you don't mind me leaving links to the meta I wrote back then. (season four and pilot doors) Feel free to ignore or run with anything that might tie into the ways you are thinking.

I don't feel as much alarm about Amelia being necessarily evil as you do - even if she turns out to be something other than a literal memory. I hope she's sent with a benevolent intent and more of a Lisa type meant to provide an anchor for Sam on the run. I loved Lisa's willingness to support Dean and give him a chance to heal. Plus, as you noted, her Dean-like qualities are noticeable and I want that to be a good thing! Besides the connection to Amy Pond in her name, there's also the canon that Amelia was Jimmy Novak's wife's name and was the name the Trickster-in-disguise ( ... )

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msdori November 28 2012, 02:07:17 UTC
Oh, fuck me sideways with a fish fork. BEN, how did I not connect that??? (I'm blaming it on the fact that I'm a Shakespeare scholar and therefore have a very fine-tuned dick joke detector which pinged on Amelia's last name. Also, names are words, and I don't notice verbal stuff the way I do visuasl. But ARGH. )

Yeah, no, no friggin' way those names are coincidental. So Sam and Dean each spent most of a year with the namesake of someone it hurt them terribly to lose. That's not at all ominous... And it makes me even more sure that NOTHING we've seen this season is what it really looks like, Jesus.

And OOOOOH, meta links, thank you, thank you, thank you! I must go now and roll around in the meta check out your take on this stuff...

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annspal November 28 2012, 03:39:49 UTC
And it makes me even more sure that NOTHING we've seen this season is what it really looks like, Jesus.

I have to agree. And, if any of the more extreme explanations become canon, the implications would change EVERYTHING.

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write_light November 28 2012, 04:40:04 UTC
Amelia Richardson = A Rash Demonic Liar.

Just sayin' ...

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msdori November 29 2012, 04:01:52 UTC
Holy shit.

That is AWESOME.

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