S6 Evil Deeds

[ms_scarletibis]

Evil: morally reprehensible : sinful, wicked.

So, in my last post, the topic of whether Spike had been "evil" or not in s6 came up.  Did Spike do some messed up things that season?  Duh.  Would I classify him under evil during that season?  No.  In my opinion, regardless of season, Spike always surpassed the expectations of the average vampire, or

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[shipperx]

Honestly, other than intelligence (which is a moral neutral) I can't think of a single positive quality for Warren.

[ms_scarletibis]

Well, there's also...

Nope, I got nothing :p

[harsens_rob]

Errr...

He kind of cared about Andrew? And, uh, ... well....

Oh, look at the time! I've gotta run...!

[harsens_rob]

Here's my answers:

http://harsens-rob.livejournal.com/210690.html

[ms_scarletibis]

Saw and responded ;)

[flake_sake]

Very interesting poll.

I always saw vampires a bit like predatory animals. A lot of the things they do are part of their nature. Say Dru killing Kendra barely registers as evil to me, since Kendra wanted to kill her too, which in this case also wasn't evil.

[stormwreath]

Dru killing Kendra barely registers as evil to me,

Nor to me... although then again, consider that the reason why she killed Kendra was because she wanted to kidnap Giles so he could be horribly and brutally tortured into giving up the secret of how to end the world and drag every living soul into an eternity of torment in Hell.

Considering her motive, I think she becomes a little bit more evil. :-)

[flake_sake]

Yes, though I really think it has to be taken into consideration that vampires and humans are different species.

If I take it for granted that it's ok for Buffy to kill vampires then to some extent I accept that vampires kill humans to eat them.

I don't think a cat that toys with a mouse is evil either. I think the humans gain the upper hand in this war because they used to not torture vampires or delight in causing them pain. But on those occasions where they did it becomes a give as good as you get situation.

I think nothing quite so convinced me of Buffy being good as her not killing Spike in S4. Because she'd have been justified to do so, but she didn't. Same for Spike later on, at some point he just became better than his nature.

I can be firmly on the human side in that conflict but I'm not sure where I'd place humans and vampires on the good/evil scale. A lot of the placement of humans as good, depends on accepting that it is ok for them to kill the others, while it's not ok to kill humans.

[ms_scarletibis]

*nods*

[scarfman]

I think the questions you asked before the actual poll are more interesting.
In the first set of four, each question is comparing an act by a demon or soulless creature with a human being. So does the last question in the second set of three. My answer for each would be, the action by the human is more morally reprehensible because, while the act by the demon may be just as evil by some quantifiable standard, the demon by nature has no morals to exercise but the human does.
For the other two questions in the second set of three: Willow's reprehensibility may be mitigated somewhat relative to Warren's because Willow's intention was not to thwart her subject's will and personality entirely but Warren's was. Giles' action, whose intent was to rescue humanity from a world-dangering evil, may be slightly better than Buffy's, depending on whether Buffy was motivated by saving her boyfriend or by rescuing a souled being (who happens to be her boyfriend) in danger of his life from the actions of a demon (the mayor); that is, a party

[ms_scarletibis]

In the first set of four, each question is comparing an act by a demon or soulless creature with a human being. So does the last question in the second set of three. My answer for each would be, the action by the human is more morally reprehensible because, while the act by the demon may be just as evil by some quantifiable standard, the demon by nature has no morals to exercise but the human does.

Agreed.

depending on whether Buffy was motivated by saving her boyfriend or by rescuing a souled being (who happens to be her boyfriend) in danger of his life from the actions of a demon (the mayor); that is, a party falling into the category of those the Slayer is charged with protecting.Buffy specifically says "But he's my lover," which to me said that that was her main priority, and not going all out to save a souled being. She didn't go put on her "big girl's clothes" to go save Willow when she was kidnapped by the Mayor. In fact, it is only Oz who goes against Wesley's plan vehemently and destroying the box, and Willow was Buffy's

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