BUFFY #5 - spoilery specs

[moscow_watcher]

"I imagine this issue of Buffy will leave fans talking, and some of it is gonna be unhappy..." (Scott Allie in the lettercol). Boy, was he right. "Some of it" was so unhappy that Whedonesque issued a new rule: people who don't like comics are not allowed to post in comics threads. "Post again and you're banned from this site forever. All this at

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[fenderlove]

Are we supposed to suspend our disbelief and assume that Buffy was knocked up during the party?

Why not? We already suspend our disbelief to believe that Buffy did the right thing in torturing a social worker, that hospitals and the government work they way they do in the Whedonverse, and don't forget all the vampires, zombies, and demons. I don't trust the writers of this story to have actually done any research into pregnancy. It seems like they understand, "Morning sickness! That's a sign of pregnancy! Let's have Buffy do it!" whether or not it would be reasonable that she would be having pregnancy nausea at this stage.

[moscow_watcher]

You're most likely right. As I replied to Stormwreath upthread, writers may be unaware how fandom dissects the details of the story.

We analyse details much more thouroughly than writers. Sometimes we don't see forest behind the trees.

Several days passed in Buffy's world. Five months passed in our world. It's hard to correlate two timelines.

[eilowyn]

This is the first I've heard of Whedonesque's new rule, and I can't say I'm surprised. The anti-comics people have become downright nasty - to the point where I'm afraid to post my mixed feelings about the plotline for fear of being mocked, as I already have been for even the slightest glimmer of optimism. In a forum where people are supposed to discuss the comics, the bashing antics of the few ruin the dialogue for the rest of us by taking the focus off discussing the issue and putting it on their own opinion that the comics are terrible, horrible, no-good very bad tripe.

[sueworld2003]

"The anti-comics people have become downright nasty - to the point where I'm afraid to post my mixed feelings about the plotline for fear of being mocked,"

Really? Have I ever mocked you then?

[angearia]

She might be speaking about tumblr?

I've never felt that way about your commentary, Sue, and I've led the Comics Positivity Brigade quite frequently at times.

[sueworld2003]

Thing is I hardly use Tunblr as my knackered old machine can't keep up with all those animated gifs. So I certainly haven't spoken to anyone on there. In fact theres dustbowls forming on it right now. *g*

"I've never felt that way about your commentary, Sue, and I've led the Comics Positivity Brigade quite frequently at times."

Aww thanks love. :)

[enzialla]

Oh, you forgot Willow as a canditate. Maybe she grew a penis, who knows with the way the story is going. I mean, really? Even the timeline doesn't work. Buffy has a party, 2 nights later she meets Severin, she sleeps at his place, fight him the next night, and then goes home and we have her roommates talking to her about moving out. So it's maximum 10 days since the party, and 6 months since the spacefrank. So the only candidate in logical conditions, can be somebody she's had sex before season 9 began. Or else it's a mystical pregnancy

[moscow_watcher]

I admit, I was surprised to find out about Buffy's pregnancy. I didn't expect Joss to go in that direction.

But I'm afraid that Joss will use a baby storyline to subject Buffy to more torments - and it's a very delicate matter when a baby is involved. It's so easy to slip into tasteless horrors or silly fluff.

Hopefully it won't happen.

As to "back to basics" - they say this mantra at the beginning of every season. :)

[cordykitten]

Couldn't resist the spoilers. But I'm just happy I don't read the comics.

[moscow_watcher]

Not reading is the most sensible decision, that's for sure! :)

(I say it as a fan who has already seen April covers)

[kerry_220]

I'm just wandering about another option. What with there being no indicators of pregnancy until Buffy woke from the dream, is there some significance to the 'stomach punch' she 'felt'. What was the significance of the 'You're not the slayer' and the key reference and turning Xander and Dawn into zompires?

Is it too left field to think (maybe HOPE) that the pregnancy has nothing to do with drunken mystery dads but something related to the dream and the faery?

[moscow_watcher]

I used to think that fairy could impregnate Buffy with her fairy dust. But, judging by the dialogue in #5, fairy has nothing to do with it. She says "I discovered something you need to know" - and, to me, it sounds like Buffy's pregnancy was a surprise for fairy, too.

After the breaking of the Seed Joss can change any rule and explain that it happens because there is no Seed. Vampires could become fertile, because there is no Seed. Maybe it's immaculate conception that will produce a magical child.

[enzialla]

There is still one panel from #1 unexplained. The one with Spike closing the window, and remember Allie's reply on a question based on the comment. "Has he seen something strange?" So what Spike saw exactly?

Don't rule out yet the fairy..

[moscow_watcher]

I think it was Tink. Will it play a role later? Most likely. Maybe Tink was the only sober person at the party and she could see Buffy having sex with Heinrich or somebody else.

Or maybe she has somehow influenced Buffy's mind - played the role of the poisoned drink, if we continue VM parallels.