chapter 218 thoughtdump

Nov 14, 2008 22:03

groove has gone through the raws and provided her own take on what's going on here. i'm still really confused, but her post really helped clear some things up for me ♥

of course, like the rest of the populace, i still have some questions.

just 'SOME' questions? )

khr, reborn!discussion

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katsumeragi November 14 2008, 14:52:22 UTC
Number 8 is the first thing I thought. Amano secretly hates that chara T_T

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morphaileffect November 14 2008, 22:58:53 UTC
in my head, ryohei (WHO IS THE TEAM HEALER OK) is in the process of healing himself AND yamamoto in the span of time they needed to get trapped in that cylinder thing. and they are both going to rise up and SAVE THE DAY at the most crucial moment - which should have been now, really ><

i meant to say amano probably doesn't secretly hate him, she's just. uh. SAVING HIM UP FOR SOMETHING COOL. yeah.

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onlyluminous November 14 2008, 15:47:53 UTC
...Cry. Refusing to acknowledge 218's existence until things clear up.

*VERY PUT OUT BY THIS*

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morphaileffect November 14 2008, 23:00:13 UTC
this might be a loooong, loooong time, if it happens at all XD XD but i admire your patience!

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kyokou_kuroda November 14 2008, 18:01:27 UTC
why is yamamoto still down T__________________T on the other hand, i-pin and lambo knocked out on his legs is ♥

*cries with you* ;________: Though that picture is ♥ So cute :D

Also, if you have the time, comment here ♥ I love to send you one :3

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morphaileffect November 14 2008, 23:02:20 UTC
(imagines baby i-pin and lambo crawling in their sleep over to something they know is warm and safe - oh look, takeshi-niichan's legs ♥)

aah! sorry i missed this post! (runs over)

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kyokou_kuroda November 15 2008, 03:42:20 UTC
(imagines them as baby!animals looking for their big brother or something :'D ♥)

Quoting from someone in the community:
DOES ANYONE ELSE FIND IT AWFULLY CONVENIENT THAT IN ALL THIS PLOT TWISTING AND WHAT THE FUCKERY GOING ON THAT THE ONLY PERSON WHO KNOWS THE MOST IS STILL UNCONSCIOUS?

Yes, maybe that's the reason why Yamamoto's still unconscious ;;;; But lol, it's hard to imagine him suddenly popping out of nowhere and explain stuff :'DDD I bet all those explanations will be all "Hahahaha what am I saying lol"

I-It's okay ;;; It must've been pretty hectic on your end ^^;;; Hope everything is going okay :D

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morphaileffect November 15 2008, 23:29:45 UTC
yeahhhh he'd be like "OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD AHAHAH I DON'T ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND ANY OF THAT BUT I'M GAME."

things really are pretty hectic i'm afraid ^^ stupid work getting in the way of fandom (kicks it to next week) (woos it back, i need the moneys T_T)

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(uh, hi! total stranger here) thelovemafia November 15 2008, 06:05:49 UTC
Total stranger dropping by, but I just wanted to say this question bothered me too:

if irie is really on the vongola's side, WHY DID GOKUDERA WANT HIM DEAD?
Until I read a comment somewhere that said, Gokudera really didn't know Irie was on their side, and essentially, "For Irie to be truly effective, Gokudera had to be unaware of his double-agent plans. It would make Gokudera's reaction to Irie (ie. eternal hatred and KILL HIM NOW) true and more convincing to the watching Millefiore." If Irie really is a double agent and a Vongola ally infiltrating the Millefiore, he would be most effective if those around him genuinely didn't know of his true plans.

why do spoiler pics circulate faster than scans of the raw in KHR fandom?
I've always thought that some of the spoilers looked like cameraphone work/photographs: much faster and easier to get up than proper quality scans.

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Re: (uh, hi! total stranger here) kye_kestrel November 15 2008, 19:01:39 UTC
To add to this, (total shot in the dark, I just felt that it would be appropriate to add my comment here because of the points about Gokudera not knowing about Irie's double-agent status) it would... kind of make sense now if TYL!Hibari had been communicating with TYL!Irie. OTL, I dunno - Bhex, what you said on Plurk about Irie leaving a note for the guardians to find so that they'll know when exactly they're switching - what if it's something even more direct? What if, since it's 15-year-old Irie running around shooting the Vongola kids, TYL!Irie should remember the exact times he made the switches in the past, would know when young!Hibari got shot, probably informed TYL!Hibari about it, hence this... Exception to the rule might be Chrome, though? He seemed surprised to find her in Kokuyo Health Land. Of course, he could have been faking that surprise to fool the Cervello (who, I'm only starting to really realize, might be Byakuran's dogs, which explains why Irie's always so... stiff and jittery around them). And he might have been ( ... )

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Re: (uh, hi! total stranger here) surskitty November 15 2008, 20:39:38 UTC
More importantly, and this has bugged me for a while but hey!, 15-year-old Irie looks like this.

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posting another response is totally cooler than delete + repost >:| surskitty November 15 2008, 20:42:13 UTC
So really this chapter makes that one page of 171 that has 15YO-Irie with the mare ring in front of the Giant White Machine Thing make a hell of a lot more sense.

FORESHADOWING FORESHADOWING

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khursten November 16 2008, 00:33:01 UTC
Ugh... I hate this chapter like nattou unstirred for the same reasons you said that she just pulled a Jump on this one. And no, this isn't as smooth as Odacchi would have done it (strangely, he doesn't pull the Jump like this). I still believe she talks a lot to Ooba Tsugumi in the Jump Pantry. T_T

Alternately, I could be mistaken to the 15 year old Irie (after re-read) and that this could be the 24 yr. old Irie who waited 10 years for them to arrive and just stripped in front of them to look more... casual. The point here is... no switch was involved. There's usually a cloud of smoke for the switch. There was no telling tale in the panel and he is still wearing his millefiore kneecaps. I think. maa...

Ah fuck. Thinking about this chapter really give me migraines. It's a love-hate moment with Amano. WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT!?! And... I can't wait for the next one.

On the other end, the spoilers for Reborn come out at the same time the full raws are released for Gintama. Raws on Gintama are LQ though...

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morphaileffect November 16 2008, 01:12:35 UTC
i can believe it if amano is among the ones with the weakest plot development skillz in the jump pantry. this Really Awesome plot twist had very little buildup - which i suppose contributed to the big saprize value. it leaves a bad taste in the mouth, i suppose is one way to say it? the fact that she brought about the saprize largely through omission prevents me from finding it clever ( ... )

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