A River in Egypt

Aug 07, 2008 13:25


I’m still trying to come to terms with the season finale of Doctor Who. I’ve tried ignoring it, but that worked about as well as telling myself not to think about pink elephants. I needed something I could picture in its place. So I finally did the same thing I’d done for season two - I sat down and made a list of ( all the things I’d need to change to make “The Stolen Earth” and “Journey’s End” work for me. )

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bananasandroses August 7 2008, 20:15:34 UTC


(I won’t be able to read 99 percent of the post-“Journey’s End” fanfic that’s being written, but that’s already true, since I’m never going to ship Rose and the duplicate Doctor.)

Word.

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mls03j August 7 2008, 21:15:26 UTC
Yeah-I figured I had nothing left to lose. (Before, I still had hope-that Rose would come back, that my unresolved issues with season two would be resolved, that we’d get a happy ending. But that’s gone.)

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bananasandroses August 7 2008, 21:21:27 UTC


that we’d get a happy ending.

Short of killing her in front of the Doctor (the one in brown, that is), I think it would have been difficult for them to have found an ending less happy than the one we got.

I figured I had nothing left to lose.

Tell me about it ... *sighs* ... the vast majority of my f-list are all on the Ten II/Rose bandwagon and don’t (won’t, I sometimes suspect) understand that I can’t just swap like that, that’s not how it’s done. Y’know?

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mls03j August 8 2008, 01:03:20 UTC
Yeah, I know. It’s funny. I joined the SPDN because I was tired of having the same arguments over and over and over again. I’m leaving for more or less the same reason.

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pncwho November 30 2008, 15:54:52 UTC
I don’t see any reason why I can’t make this list - and the one from June - my personal canon. (I won’t be able to read 99 percent of the post-“Journey’s End” fanfic that’s being written, but that’s already true, since I’m never going to ship Rose and the duplicate Doctor.)

Me neither. The whole TSE/JE thing absolutely disgusted me. Aside from the scientific impossibilities and logical fallacies (I probably should post my essay one of these days), the ending just sickened me.

Rose goes through heaven-knows-what to get back to her Doctor. She's risked her life, more than once, to get back to him when she's been seperated from him. And how does he reward her? By sending her back to the parallel universe with the Clone. And she happily accepts it?! She would willingly trade a diamond for a rhinestone?! That is wrong on so many levels, and it makes a lie of their love.

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mls03j November 30 2008, 19:29:10 UTC
Well, I’m not sure I’d call the original Doctor a diamond. But, other than that, I agree. In fact, I think RTD agrees-he admitted in A Writer’s Tale that “Rose has to be stupid to fall in love with Doctor 2. No matter what I do, that’s not her Doctor.” But he realized that too late to fix it.

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pncwho November 30 2008, 23:52:15 UTC
Well, I’m not sure I’d call the original Doctor a diamond.

Heh! I was, of course, speaking metaphorically. But Rose did trade the real thing for an imitation.

In fact, I think RTD agrees....But he realized that too late to fix it.

Yeah, he bit off way more than he could chew with that finale. Tried to do too much and went too far. Honestly, it would've been better to not bring Rose back at all than to screw up her character so badly.

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mls03j July 12 2009, 00:52:44 UTC
Ironically, my list has changed since last year. In hindsight, I would’ve made the scene where Rose saved Wilf from the Daleks her last appearance in season four. Then I would’ve made half of this year’s specials about what she’s been doing in Pete’s World, and the other half about the Doctor finding a way across the Void. (I’ve actually got most of an AU fic worked out in my head, but I figure that’s true for everyone who didn’t like “Journey’s End.”)

I can’t honestly say that I’m still hoping things turn out better. I just… There was a tradition in Ancient Greece where the family of someone who died would sit up with the body the night before the burial. That’s what I’m doing.

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