SEXUAL HORROR: another Manifest

[mithrigil]

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So here I am, waiting for a train (a train that will take me far, far away from here, namely back to the city after a surprisingly lovely Rosh Hashanah dinner with my parents--happy new year, everyone! I've got eight days to get mine back on the right foot). And I recall that the other day, in my post about fightsex and why it is awesome, I also

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[deixis_dyad]

I have pulled myself away from video games to comment! Hooray!

See, everything in this post is what I love and could never write because I have absolutely no understanding of characters' fears because if I try I feel like I presuming, which is a bad thing. But this post has certainly helped me comprehend how to balance the horror and sex, which is (for me at least idek) difficult, to say the least. There's always the concern of whether the fic still turns people on or whether you're getting the concept of fear across properly. So this helps! A lot! Not to mention all the examples are fantastic and I kind of want you to write a lot of them. France and England's corpse nggggh this is so hot. Because. Yeah. Yeaaaah.

I think ghostsex does the most for me though, mostly because I was introduced to it in a spectacular Kingdom Hearts fic. (I'm not sure why whenever I comment on these posts Kingdom Hearts shows up, but. I'm going to roll with it.) It's what introduced me to it and I have been very much behind it ever since. There is not

[lucid_babbles]

Just wanted you to know...I love your writing. Every manifesto and fic. Gah.

[surrealistes]

you are bloody brilliant.

[chuckro]

I wrote an extended response to this, but I'm probably going to post it behind a filter because I prefer not to publically post about my kinks. (Though I could add you to that filter, if you'd like.)

I will say, though, that I think the issue of consent is an important bit in sexual horror that you don’t touch on enough here. Ghostsex is kinda-sorta consensual (“If you didn't want this, you'd stop, right? If it was all in your head, you could make it go away.”) Sexualized Body Horror is entirely consensual, because it relies on “wanting to finish too much to stop.” Horror With a Twist “uses sex to inflect horror, not horror to inflect sex”; the sex would have been consensual, had you not broken the action with the horrific twist. What about rape stories, where the horror comes from not wanting the sex, or "non-consensual" stories, where the horror is part of being made to want the sex?

[mithrigil]

I'd actually like to see your thoughts on it, if you don't mind.

The reason I didn't go into lack-of-consent scenarios is that, as a rule, I don't personally find them sexy. But you're right in that a big subset of sexual horror incorporates coercion, being made to want it despite your previous inclinations. That might be a post for someone else to make, though.

[chuckro]

You've been added to my filter.

[seta_suzume]

Mith, lately I've wanted to look at both of these cool manifests of yours again and today I got around to it... [full disclosure: I'm in the mood to write some Scar/Kimblee fic and I thought the sparring leads to sex manifest would give me the boost I needed to actually get started] Well, since last reading, I have watched Baccano! ...Now I want Baccano! ghostsex. ^^; Guess I've got to write it myself...?