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dollsome August 21 2013, 03:52:24 UTC
Oh, God, this -- I love that this exists. It's so chilling and smart, with such awesome song choice, and your commentary on the thought behind the vid articulates so well how appallingly Ros was treated by the show. The cuts in the vid paralleling Ros with Sansa, in particular, were just striking. I love that even though Ros got basically no respect from the narrative she was in, fandom is able to give her the voice and perspective that I (and lots of others) would have so loved to see on the show itself. Even the main female characters are so often treated as objects rather than being given points of view -- recently I was lamenting this about Sansa in s3 -- and so I just love how this vid reclaims a Game of Thrones woman's right to her own point of view.

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milly August 23 2013, 01:03:04 UTC
<3 <3 <3 <3

Holy awesome feedback, Batman!

Thank you so much, seriously. I'm not sure what I could add that you haven't already said. I can see why there are so many awesome vids for this show now, because there is *so* much to say about it, both good and critical.

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hollywoodgrrl August 23 2013, 22:00:25 UTC
Wow, this is so interesting. My initial reaction upon watching the vid (especially coming off the month I spent with the women from the show as I was editing Run Boy Run) was all the love for this great Ros vid! And even reading your notes I still see it as a strong character study. The only way you can have a character study is if there is enough material in the show to sustain it. And though Ros 100% started off as a character who was just supposed to be a whore from the pilot, she grew in the course of the show to the point where people were complaining that she got more screentime than the actual characters from the book! I didn't have this problem and I completely understood where her character was going and ESPECIALLY in S3. I don't want to take up too much more room because it will start bleeding into the things I put into my vid, but I do want to say that how I saw you use the lyric "the list of things I used to be is longer than the list of things I am" as compared to Sansa was while Ros grew and "climbed the ladder" ( ( ... )

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milly August 23 2013, 23:33:41 UTC
ALL the words! lol ( ... )

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hollywoodgrrl August 25 2013, 16:32:00 UTC
All the words bc I have ALL THE FEELS for these ladies ( ... )

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milly August 25 2013, 17:05:19 UTC
I think the main difference between our two interpretations is I don't think D&D actually *intentionally* gave Ros agency. She wasn't even planned past her sex scene with Tyrion, and when they realized they needed a character in King's Landing to do sexposition and stuff, they called Esmé back because they were like "oh, remember that girl? Yeah, we could reuse her". So to me it feels like much of her storyline was just "we need her there" and her climb was basically a result of her character being needed at certain points of another character's stories. When you take all those pieces and put it together, which is what I tried to do, then she does have a story, and she does have agency, but I can't credit D&D for that because I don't think they really intentionally were like "we'll tell Ros's story". I mean, the moment they started putting more emphasis on her, she lost a big part of her autonomy, and then she was killed ( ... )

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bananainpyjamas August 24 2013, 20:47:09 UTC
The parallels here are so interesting, particularly those that speak to your point about Ros being a darker mirror of Sansa. This vid does a great job of capturing a lot of people's frustrations about Ros (and, to some extent, D&D's handling of female characters in general) so I definitely think the "Fuck You!" theme applies. I totally didn't peg this as you though, way to be sneaky!

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anoel September 1 2013, 17:39:19 UTC
Oh man this vid is SO awesome and I am so, so glad you made it. It's such a great portrait of Roz's character and her journey on trying to be a person even when the show doesn't treat her as such. There's *so* much interesting things and meaning here that I'm sure I'm missing things and will be happy to rewatch this vid lots ( ... )

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kiki_miserychic September 11 2013, 22:22:20 UTC
Ros, how I love thee and how her story was woven in this vid. Dessa, how I love thee too.

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