Comments | midnitemaraud_r: And yet one more theory!

midnitemaraud_r

And yet one more theory!

Jul 17, 2005 18:57

I've got a theory about the prophecy, regarding the "neither can live while the other survives" part. It's obviously very spoilery, so I'll post it behind the cut.

( Lincoln, Lincoln, I've been thinking... )

hp, meta, hbp

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ladyblack888 July 17 2005, 23:14:20 UTC

Online?

ladyblack888 July 17 2005, 23:25:40 UTC

I need to go. *sighs* But go check my LJ. I wrote an essay aswell! *is impressed with self*

BTW, this essay of yours has just become Book 7 Canon for me.

midnitemaraud_r July 18 2005, 00:32:24 UTC

BTW, this essay of yours has just become Book 7 Canon for me.

Wheeee! It's not bad, is it? *g* And as maeglin points out below, when Voldemort tries to possess him at the end of OotP in the ministry, it doesn't work - Harry's love shields him and doesn't allow Voldemort to possess him fully.

And I love your will theory (as I already indicated!*g*)

maeglinyedi July 17 2005, 23:16:44 UTC

I'm not sure where "love" plays into all of this, but perhaps it is a kind of shield for Harry that protects him - his own soul - from the fragment of Voldemort's soul within him.

Dumbledore basically confirmed this already -- that Voldemort can't possess Harry (he tried in the Ministry at the end of OotP) because there is so much love in Harry.

And I love the idea of Harry being an accidental horcrux. It makes a lot of sense to me.

midnitemaraud_r July 18 2005, 00:39:00 UTC

I'd forgotten about that possession attempt!

I wonder then, if the object he was intending to use was found in the wreckage of Godric's Hollow. Not that it would contain a horcrux, or have much use, but the idea is interesting. Two have been destroyed - the diary and the ring, then there's the locket - well we know where it is, the cup, Nagini and Harry himself if that theory holds. Voldemort himself is number 7. Book seven seems like it's going to be a sort of quest novel. And it makes sense that Harry doesn't go back to Hogwarts, since none of the objects would be located at Hogwarts. Sounds like fun to me.

Heh. I wonder if he wanted to use Hogwarts itself as a horcrux. :)

amanuensis1 July 17 2005, 23:34:38 UTC

The ideas of how things could work with living and non-living horcruxes is great. Really well thought-out!

midnitemaraud_r July 18 2005, 00:47:10 UTC

Well, Dumbledore said that Voldemort probably couldn't tell when the diary or the ring was destroyed. But the connection that VOldemort shared with Harry intrigued me. There had to be a significance to it that was more than just a backfired spell. Harry could speak parseltongue, which implies a part of Voldemort is within Harry.

And as DD suspected Nagini was a horcrux, and Voldemort was able to 'possess' Nagini that night in the Ministry... But a living horcrux is susceptible to death, which is probably why it's not a good choice. What happens when the soul is released upon the death of a living horcrux? Does it just float off with a consciousness like Voldemort did after that night in Godric's Hollow and after Quirrel died, and would it be a separate entity? Or would it try to unite with another fragment? Gah! I think my brain is going to explode! *g*

topaz_eyes July 17 2005, 23:50:21 UTC

If Harry's scar is an Horcrux (and I really, really like your theory), why didn't Voldemort simply release that part of his soul in GoF when he took Harry's blood to come back to life? (Or did he? He was insistent in the beginning of GoF, that he specifically needed Harry's blood.) Or perhaps he activated the Horcrux in some way so that in OotP Harry could have the linked visions with Nagini and Voldemort?

midnitemaraud_r July 18 2005, 01:10:56 UTC

First of all, I don't think he knew that Harry had become a horcrux. So he wasn't looking at it from that perspective. He knew Harry had a protection in his blood from his mother, and THAT was what he wanted. He thought that by using Harry's blood he'd be able to touch him again. And, as we saw, he was able to physically touch him ( ... )

scarah2 July 18 2005, 00:43:32 UTC

I totally agree with you, I was just pointed over here in the comments to my entry where I say something very close!

:D

midnitemaraud_r July 18 2005, 01:14:25 UTC

That's very interesting. I've never read it to mean a third person was indicated before. I do think Snape will play a very important role regardless! Those last seconds, when Snape bends over Dumbledore before he kills him - they're both legilimens...

Maeglin is such an enabler, isn't she? :)