Warning: Politics

Sep 05, 2012 19:55

NB: Post is text heavy, feel free to apply &format=lightSo I couldn't sleep last night because I was busy making lists in my head of what groceries I'd buy and what food I could make out of said groceries: the things that occupy me late at night. (Protip: Don't do this. It makes you hungry. In the middle of the night ( Read more... )

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meritjubet September 6 2012, 01:19:55 UTC
Hopefully you can keep your strength up! :) I would be prefer Obama in power (recent poll in Australia 70% would vote for Obama, 5% for Romney, the rest undecided. Which also shows how people in other countries follow US politics since they tend to have a grand influence on world events) and hopefully that will be the case.

The Jerusalem issue could hurt him, I've known some people who are generally quite leftist but are fiercely Zionist when it comes to Israel. Among other things they flip their opinion on refugees when it comes to the Palestinians. On the other hand, I've also known others who hold to a two state solution. I wonder what Obama will say about the issue? Two state solution? Anything else I can't see happening.

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meiface September 6 2012, 01:26:57 UTC
The rest of the world seems mostly to be backing Obama (Romney's foreign policy experience = not great or...nonexistent). Actually, the rest of the world seems to find our Republican Party absolutely nuts and can't seem to fathom how they have so much power. u__u I agree.

I've known some people who are generally quite leftist but are fiercely Zionist when it comes to Israel.

Yep, definitely the case in the US, which is why it's an issue both parties seem to have the same stance on: pro-Israel. There is only one stance, really.

Well, the Dems put Jerusalem back into the platform but I don't know what alternative stance they might take. I'm not sure Obama is going to touch on that issue at all during the convention, but it'll probably come up during the campaign trail and debates in upcoming months.

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meritjubet September 6 2012, 01:40:23 UTC
Well he had a great world tour recently! Except not. That's right, insult the British, one of your biggest allies /shakes head. It is somewhat surprising! But compared to similar western democracies, the US tends to be much more religious and that seems to heavily influence politics.

It will be interesting to hear what he and others have to say on the issue.

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meiface September 6 2012, 02:27:01 UTC
Augh so I'm watching the DNC and just seeing the diversity in the audience makes me ;~;. Men! Women! So many women! Indians! Blacks! Asians! Muslims! Christians! Jews! Young college kids! Grandmothers! AND EVERYONE GOT TEARY FOR MICHELLE OBAMA LAST NIGHT.

Ugh god stoppit, drowning in politics. Must go read some teenage werewolves being snarky and having sex. >:(

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osoreranai September 6 2012, 02:37:51 UTC
Hmm. Good speech.

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Yeah, that actually sums up my feels on the matter pretty well. Sorry. :( It's just not something I believe in very much, except as a distraction that keeps us from effectively addressing our problems and making lasting progress.

If Obama wins, he gets to keep making his changes one difficult step at a time, and so on until the other party wins. At which point, they will dedicate every effort to tearing down everything he's done. And when it swings back the other way, the cycle will begin again.

Politics is a business composed of rich people, intellectual terrorism from our media, and so much talking with so little communication. To quote Shakespeare, it's "sound and fury... signifying nothing."

Don't get me wrong. I'll vote. I'll probably just end up writing "Jesus" on the ticket, though, because he and his cause are worth believing in to me.

I apologize if I sound cynical or difficult. Please don't mind. I don't mean to be. I'm just a tired old man.

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meiface September 7 2012, 19:51:38 UTC
You don't have to apologize! I know many people are cynical and disheartened by politics in the US and I definitely don't blame them. In a very real sense, it's a lot of lawyers and policymakers who know each other and aren't connected to "the real world" patting each other on the back or fighting among each other constantly - a lot of it reminds me of law school and the legal profession, actually, which is why so I don't want to do law unless it's the public interest crappy-pay working-with-the-real-people stuff. (Ugh, it sounds pretentious in its own way put like that, doesn't it ( ... )

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osoreranai September 7 2012, 22:54:39 UTC
(Not at all. I mean, it doesn't sound worse than saying you're going to be a great novelist, so, there's that).

I definitely see where you're coming from. It's not a fair fight, and it's not a good fight, but if you don't step in the ring and put 'em up, who'll do it for us? I see that. And I'm not trying to be like some kind of high-minded slacker, rationalizing inactivity as a cover for arrogance. The internet's got enough of those already.

It's just. I struggle to attempt to articulate this sentiment, so if I do poorly I beg your pardon.

We have problems. We have deep problems in this country. And for all the noise that we hear from on high, at the end of the day the situation is not truly changed. The rich get richer. The poor get poorer. Babies are born, and no one is there to rear them. Men go mad and shoot each other in theaters. Women are sold into slavery on the Internet.

How do you fight this? Some would say that you should go to the government for these issues and more - but there is no unified vision to define ( ... )

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kasugai_gummie September 6 2012, 05:55:12 UTC
Chicago's AABA had Tammy as the keynote speaker at the Installation Gala dinner this year. She's indeed a very remarkable woman and made pulling an allnighter during the summer for a group of hideously incompetent asians worth it.

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meiface September 7 2012, 19:52:32 UTC
That is awesome. Well, not the hideous incompetence, since I know how that drives you up a wall, but glad the payoff was getting to hear her! She seems really amazing.

Hey and you can even vote for her! Awesome.

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kasugai_gummie September 9 2012, 02:54:16 UTC
And I will! :D Just mailed in my registration thing last week. Thank you Obamas for making it easier to register for ppl who know only the internet and nothing else. looool

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