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meganlynn09

Doctor Who

Jul 13, 2006 14:16

Warning!: Doctor Who post up ahead. OPINIONS ARE ALL MY OWN.

Okay, I only started to watch the show in March of this year. It started on SciFi, and I saw commercials for it while watching the new Battlestar Galactica. This British hit was going to start when BSG's run was over, so I thought I would check it out.

I was in love within 2 episodes. ( Read more... )

doctor who, tenth doctor, ninth doctor

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nina_ds July 13 2006, 22:06:00 UTC

Great post. Soooo much to respond to, but I'll try! :-)

Nine/Rose is one of the most extraordinary, broad-ranging, emotionally engaging relationships I've ever seen depicted in fiction. They didn't have to tell us what they meant to each other; they showed us: when Rose asks him to take her to be with her father when he dies, both times; his anger when she disobeys him; his annoyance at her picking up the pretty boys, etc. No one says he knows that Pete has to die to fix everything, we can just infer it from his performance. Much more subtle. And beyond being a cutesy couple, which I'm afraid 10/Rose comes off as, I don't buy it emotionally, although Billie Piper is a star for doing as well as she did. What does Ten actually do that wins her? She was won with Nine; Ten is awfully cocksure about the whole thing and coasting on that relationship. I feel a lot of the emotion in S2 is unearned in that way ( ... )

meganlynn09 July 13 2006, 23:06:59 UTC

I think "Father's Day" was damn near a perfect piece of television in terms of showing a relationship between two people (becuase Lord knows the science in Doctor Who will never be perfect).

See, maybe the problem is with 10/Rose, is that with 9/Rose, that relationship was building and building and we're supposed to believe, with 10/Rose, that it's established. Except, it's pushed too hard for us to except it and seems invalid.

A similar one that really makes me want to hurl is the idea that 9 made himself "cuter" in his regeneration as some sort of reward for Rose

How the hell is regenerating a "reward" for Rose? It hurt like hell, as we saw in "The Christmas Invasion". I mean, I can actually understand why people might like 10/Rose instead of 9/Rose, even though I might not like it, but it bugs me when their reasons are similar to that one.

One does not cast Christopher Eccleston if one does not want sexy. I'm a believer in that ( ... )

boji July 13 2006, 23:13:52 UTC

He never agreed for more than one season, only signed for one, and hearing about how worked he was and how sick he got, I don't blame him for not continuing.

There have been brief comments about 14+ hours days on the shoot, his excema acting up and psoriasis kicking in, but although I looked I could never find validation or details. And I wondered if his vision of The Doctor (as darker and more complex) clashed with RTD's and if that was why he only did a season. Where did you read about his health being taxed?

Hope you don't mind me asking.

B.

meganlynn09 July 13 2006, 23:16:43 UTC

Maybe I shouldn't have said that because I don't have any validation either, I've heard it from someone else. Sorry, I just meant if all that is true, I don't blame him for not continuing.

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autographedcat July 13 2006, 23:14:34 UTC

I think the key to the Doctor/Rose relationship, in the end, is to recognize that it's an unbalanced one. I don't mean that in the sense of crazy, but simply this: Rose is deeply in love with the Doctor. To her, he *is* her soulmate, the one true love that completes her ( ... )

meganlynn09 July 13 2006, 23:19:28 UTC

It did seem like it was unbalanced, which is why even though I like them together, I still had reservations.

Your last two paragraphs about Nine and then Ten just sort of nail everything I feel.

Thanks for that.

neohippie July 13 2006, 23:18:08 UTC

That's a really good post. You expressed really well what I also think about the chemistry between the Ninth Doctor and Rose compared to the Tenth Doctor and Rose. She was really a character made for Nine, and then when Ten came along, it just didn't feel as right. I'm looking forward to seeing how the Tenth Doctor gets along with the new companion ( ... )

meganlynn09 July 13 2006, 23:22:47 UTC

Thank you very much!

And actually, the clip on YouTube showed all that, and she did say she was joking. It did seem that when the choice to leave was taken away by the Doctor, she faced up the fact that she didn't want to leave. But it's the fact that it didn't really seem like he ditched her and then "School Reunion" seemed like he did. And I can understand why some people didn't like that.

Thank you again for your comment!

leoff July 14 2006, 01:47:43 UTC

I think you're mis-interpreting a lot of fans anger over the episode "School Reunion ( ... )

meganlynn09 July 14 2006, 02:18:24 UTC

Thanks! I thought there was something I was missing. Knowing that, and what little I know about the older series, it makes a lot more sense why this episode wasn't as well received as I thought it should have been. Thanks again for pointing this out!

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meganlynn09 July 14 2006, 02:11:10 UTC

Thank you very much! I'll be sure to do that.

frelling_tralk July 14 2006, 00:39:09 UTC

Really interesting post, thanks!

I liked Ten the most in GITF and SR. I love the angst and character development. And I've also really enjoyed him in the final two-parter.

DT grows on me when he does his more subtle work. Just his look at seeing Rose and Jackie reunite at the end of the Cyberman two-parter, and I warm to him. The long rambling (and I find condescending speeches) on humanity are when I like him least. Or when he goes for anger, but instead of scary and intense, it was coming across like a little boy shouting. Well actually, my least favourite episode for Ten is The Idiot's Lantern with all of the yelling. I actually sniggered when he started running off at the mouth with "now listen to me", and got punched. Very bad I know :P

meganlynn09 July 14 2006, 02:14:40 UTC

Thanks for taking the time to read and comment!

DT grows on me when he does his more subtle work.

Most definitely. I was so surprised with some of his scenes in SR because I just completely bought into his performance. And yeah, even with my problems with GiTF, I liked his performance there. Count me in on laughing when he was punched in The Idiot's Lantern, he just went down so fast!

frelling_tralk July 14 2006, 13:04:15 UTC

Hee! It was around the time that the Doctor had started shouted back at the loud Dad, and we were obviously meant to find it endearing. And I just wasn't *g*

And I really enjoy your posts on DW BTW, if you ever want to link your discussions of Nine or CE to nine_love, please feel free :)

meganlynn09 July 14 2006, 14:42:37 UTC

Oh I definitely will! I actually have a few to link, so you'll see some soon.