I wish a judge would run for president. Mostly because they at least have some practice in separating their personal beliefs with the law
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I support marriage being abolished (in it's present condition). That really is my stance, even as a Christian. I don't think people should get tax breaks for getting laid, no matter what their orientation is or how many kids they pop out (maybe tax refunds for each kid's needs, if the family is poor). The government and court system has hijacked something that should be a loving life-commitment and made it about money and oppression. The government and judiciary should have no authority to define love. One of our Prime Ministers once said "The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation." (This is like, the one time I wish we'd listened to Trudeau ...)
Legally, anyone should be able to label anyone as "family" - just fill it in some sort of legalese, and then friends/significant others/polyamorous lovers/etc can be authorized to make decisions about children/hospital treatment/burials/etc. That's how it should work in my mind, anyway. "Marriage" would be a faith and/or community celebration, not a government/court procedure.
Everything needs to be revamped, I totally agree with that. My stance is very "all or nothing." Either do away with marriage, or make it accessible to EVERYONE. I don't see the US being willing to give up the legal side of marriage anytime soon though.
Karen and I have both written papers on this topic as well. :D It's a very deserving subject for soapboxing! And very well said too, I might add. I'm a BIG supporter of seperation of church and state for so many reasons! It's historically always been a bad idea to combine the two. I really wish that wasn't so hard for so many to understand!
I agree that it is an invalid and ridiculous argument. I don't understand what they see as the difference between marriage and civil union, and why people don't want to allow marriage. "Marriage is sanctified by God" - oh really? Why do you allow marriages in courts? Also, I am going to get my tubes tied as soon as I can afford it (not because I don't want children, as I really do, but that's another story), and by the "procreative" standards that will apparently nullify my marriage legitimacy; but because I'm straight, it's "okay."
Frankly, I'd rather not get married at all if that's the attitude around it.
"Marriage is sanctified by God" - oh really? Why do you allow marriages in courts?
Exactly. Also, people of any religious affiliation including athiests may get married. So... what's up with that? Why can straight athiests get married but gay Christians (or what have you) can't if marriage is purely a religious thing? Logical fallacies galore. It's appalling.
Ah, well, then since marriage is sanctified by god, does that mean that the entirety of Hollywood is going to Hell for getting divorced like 17 times each?
I would prefer that they change it the other way, that all "marriages" performed in this country were civil unions. It does not matter the gender of the people involved.
A marriage is something that would be a ceremony peformed in the religious building of your choice, following their rules. It confers no legal status. It is as it always was meant to be: basically a life changing "rite of status".
I think this would go over as well as a sharp stick in the eye. It's just my take on it, at any rate.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's a much better chance of legalizing gay marriage than doing away with marriage altogether. I'm very all or nothing about that. Like so many things it comes down to semantics, but semantics shouldn't legally elevate one group of people over another.
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Legally, anyone should be able to label anyone as "family" - just fill it in some sort of legalese, and then friends/significant others/polyamorous lovers/etc can be authorized to make decisions about children/hospital treatment/burials/etc. That's how it should work in my mind, anyway. "Marriage" would be a faith and/or community celebration, not a government/court procedure.
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Frankly, I'd rather not get married at all if that's the attitude around it.
Good luck to you and your Beloved.
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"Marriage is sanctified by God" - oh really? Why do you allow marriages in courts?
Exactly. Also, people of any religious affiliation including athiests may get married. So... what's up with that? Why can straight athiests get married but gay Christians (or what have you) can't if marriage is purely a religious thing? Logical fallacies galore. It's appalling.
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A marriage is something that would be a ceremony peformed in the religious building of your choice, following their rules. It confers no legal status. It is as it always was meant to be: basically a life changing "rite of status".
I think this would go over as well as a sharp stick in the eye. It's just my take on it, at any rate.
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