There's a Birther in New Jersey, Owes Me a Condo!

[mayojane]

Be careful what you wager. There's a Birther in New Jersey who bet me his house (turns out it's a condo,) that jus soli doesn't apply to the children of illegal immigrants. I probably won't be able to (and wouldn't want to) collect on the bet as stated, as it would involve putting a first cousin once removed (his wife) out of her home, and that

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[thkya]

Yeah... if he was going to bow to earth logic he wouldn't be a birther to begin with, would he? You can argue this point with him until you're blue in the face (and by all means, if it amuses you go right ahead!) but you should do it knowing that there is NO argument you can make that he'll accept. He's making up the rules as he go along, as to what constitutes 'proof' - and because he knows for a fact that he's right about Obama, anything that contradicts him obviously is a flawed argument, somehow.

[thkya]

Oh, although, you might see if you can get him to understand the difference between jus soli and jus sanguinis (which, amusingly, I'd just been reading about before I read your post), and then see if you can use that for anything. If he doesn't know the distinction, it's understandable that he goes with the intuitively obvious 'a kid of american parents is an american, and a kid of non-americans isn't'

[sanguine_sage]

Gah... so frustrating

[sanguine_sage]

Oh, I also forgot:

http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30527.pdf

This is an official legislative primer prepared by the Congressional Research Service. On page 7 it states:

"Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution specifies that, to be President or Vice President, a person must be a natural-born citizen of the United States, at least 35 years of age, and a resident of the United States for at least 14 years.1 Most constitutional scholars interpret this language as including citizens born outside the United States to parents who are U.S. citizens under the “natural born” requirement.2"

[mayojane]

I used your link to Cornell... just after the second Addendum... we'll see what comes of it.

8^)