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mattzimmer July 9 2008, 02:53:24 UTC
Yeah, when I meant General Audiences, I mean average joes who might have seen and enjoyed Batman Begins.

I didn't enjoy the movie too much.

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stinkingbishop July 9 2008, 14:11:11 UTC
There should've been an AniIndianaJonesrix.

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mattzimmer July 9 2008, 19:35:07 UTC
I would have been fine with that.

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stinkingbishop July 9 2008, 17:05:36 UTC
Oh, and about the target audience thing - I started a thread at TZ yesterday that touched on that:
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=213376

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mattzimmer July 9 2008, 19:38:47 UTC
I love how offended and defensive that first person in the thread got. What a geek.

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stinkingbishop July 10 2008, 10:13:11 UTC
Yeah, that's Lavenderpaw. She's a bit... well, yeah.

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mattzimmer July 10 2008, 12:54:17 UTC
I don't see anything wrong with being a geek. Heck, I don't see anything wrong with being a nerd.

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dcauyojimbo July 11 2008, 03:40:34 UTC
It's too bad you didn't like Gotham Knight. I thought it worked just fine for me. It sort of sets up Batman for Dark Knight. What sort of violence he will endure thanks to what happened in Begins and putting his life on the line.

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mattzimmer July 11 2008, 06:35:54 UTC
I didn't care for it. No fun at all.

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dcauyojimbo July 14 2008, 03:48:16 UTC
For the sake of conversation, what sort of fun were you hoping for? I mean this is pretty much Year One so Batman would be a bit more dark and broody than what we're used to.

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mattzimmer July 14 2008, 18:16:05 UTC
I dunno, BTAS was fun. I was expecting more one-liners and fun bad guy fights. All of the fights (with the possible exception of the Deadshot one and that was ruined by the coda) were so serious and bleak and depressing. Is it too much to ask for watching a superhero kicking butt without having to feel guilty about it?

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90scartoonman July 19 2008, 17:25:58 UTC
I sort of agree about Conroy sounding too old for the part. Maybe it felt a little awkward for Bruce (although I loved the use of the BTAS Bruce voice), but not Batman. I still want to know what Sisto's Bruce Wayne would sound like, but I think Rino Romano does a good job as a young Bruce Wayne ( ... )

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mattzimmer July 19 2008, 17:54:02 UTC
Crossfire: This kind of thing is the exact opposite thing I want to see in a Batman cartoon. It was seriously dour.

Working Through Pain: Yeah, a whole bunch of people loved that one and I can't honestly see why. But you're not alone.

I Am the Night: I agree Secret Society would have worked better earlier in the series run but not in season one. They had just gotten to trusting each other by the time Savage Time happened and it would have been MUCH cooler if SS had been the first or second episode of the second season they they'd have to go through it all again to build up to Starcrossed. Secret Society happened to close to Starcrossed and as you said not early enough in the show's run to have all of the interactions come off as believable.

Dark Knight: I Will probably see it in two or three weeks. I am deathly afraid of crowds and I don't like going to packed theaters. That's why I waited a couple of weeks to see Wall-E.

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90scartoonman July 26 2008, 02:33:30 UTC
I guess some of us just like journeys into Bruce Wayne's mind, and I thought Working Through Pain did it well, showing Batman in trouble in the present and a flashback to one of his training stops.

Yeah, there would have been a nice trust balance if SS came at the beginning of the season, then the team came back together as a trusting unit right before Starcrossed.

Can't say I blame you for avoiding Dark Knight, when I went, it was packed, and I had trouble finding a seat. I was just so eager to see it, I don't do that for many movies.

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mattzimmer July 26 2008, 03:20:41 UTC
BTAS had plenty of journeys into Bruce's mind but I don't quite remember any of them being that sour or full of themselves. What exactly was that gorey surgery scene supposed to accomplish besides making the movie inappropriate for kids? I have yet to hear a person give a credible reason why that was necessary.

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