Pirates of the Caribbean: Nobody Cares

[mattmatt]

See, the biggest opening in history doesn't actually mean anything at all. It's all hype anyway, which, sadly, is what big-budget film-making has turned into now. Market the shit out of it, and it won't even matter if everybody hates it, because they'll all have seen it before they realise as much. Awesome.

Comments

[basal_surge]

Having now seen all 3, I'm getting pretty certain that the script has been ripped off a good pirate novel by Tim Powers (On Stranger Tides) from '89, but in order to not make it obvious, they've chopped, changed and juggled the plot about a lot, between all three movies, added many side orders of skulls and pointless special effects, removed the motivation of many of the characters, etc. I only realised this when I saw the 'getting hitched in the middle of the swordfight' scene, which, although jazzed up for the movie, also occurs in the denoument of the book concerned. After that, lots of things fell into place.

[mattmatt]

Which would explain its completely pointless, nonsensical and inexplicable appearance in the film.

[mattmatt]

OK, now, you're someone whose opinion on movies I generally respect, so: what did you like?

[amphigori]

I went in expecting to hate it, so I gave myself permission to just enjoy it for whatever simple reasons I could find

[amphigori]

Wow. There are some weird typo there. Pretend I ran my comment through Gizzogle or something. :/

[mattmatt]

See, I agree with you that the first one didn't take itself seriously. But I think the franchise grew out of that.

[amphigori]

Ok, well fair enough. But I think the third one took itself less seriously than the second one.

And I guess that's why I like this more than I thought. I keep comparing it to the second one rather than the first.

[sevanetta]

Comments:

- Worst movie in four years? What was the last one? God, I can think of heaps of worse ones. Or at least, heaps of movies I would never bother to see. Which makes 'em way worse than this one, for me anyway.

- I went in to see it having already heard that the plot was all over the place, so I was prepared to enjoy the movie as a series of moments. I lost track of all the side-swapping too, so I just enjoyed it as a series of moments.

- I totally forgot what happened in the second movie as well.

- I <3 Geoffrey Rush, he was just fantastic. Also Keith. Yes I did know which one he was! :)

- But then, I hate Princess Bride, so perhaps it stands to reason that our opinions would be different on this. (I will admit that Princess Bride has a plot, so on that point at least it kicks the arse of this movie.)

[mattmatt]

That's why I phrased it as "the worst movie I have seen at the cinema..." I have seen plenty of worse films on DVD (Slither springs immediately to mind, but there have been many, many others), and there were lots of films I didn't bother to see at the cinema. Then again, there were lots of films I am annoyed I missed.

And yes, many people have taken the "I was expecting it to be bad, so I was pleasantly surprised" line. The thing is, I was expecting it to be dreadful and it was still worse than I had dared to expect.

Geoffrey Rush was good, but I did notice him completely drop his accent a couple of times, which horrified me.

I'm still not sure how anybody can hate TPB. Indifference I can understand, but hate is a strong word.

[sevanetta]

I used to be indifferent to it. Then I found that, for some reason I can't understand, people everywhere *love* this movie, list it as their favourite, and claim that it's generally just wonderful

[iffp]

Slither had some good lines. And Nathan Fillion.

I very much like The Princess Bride, we're talking 8 out of 10 here, but I do understand sevanetta's point - people that love it *really* tend to love it. The biggest problem with the film I think is that by far the coolest scenes are over and done with by the halfway point of the film. (See also X-Men 2, where the absolute best part of the movie is the first 5 minutes.)

[entomocephalous]

Holy fuck. I hated it. Well, there were 15 minutes I enjoyed here and there (in total). But yeah. Sucked.