Re: question about my friend...matt_arnoldNovember 17 2004, 14:00:42 UTC
I thought you knew this.
The word "watch" is too limiting. If you said "look at" or "read" it would not imply film only, but can include still images or narrative text. I do enjoy porn. No, it does not make me feel guilty.
I am aware that there exists some victimization in the porn industry, and I don't like that at all. My favorite kind is comic books and text stories. Drawings are better than life anyway, and narratives have an element of sexiness that is essential and too often overlooked: situational context. Still images or out-of-context clips always lack this and are not nearly as enjoyable. With drawings and text there is the added assurance that "no actual women were harmed in the making of this work."
Wait a minute, I know that you already know about this. I told you about the porn fiction I'm collaborating on with bluehamster98. You even made suggestions, remember?
Re: question about my friend...samurai_jkmNovember 17 2004, 14:15:34 UTC
Well, you did tell me about that porn fiction that you were collaborating with bluehamster98 on. But I did say watch didn't I...
I meant it to be directed at the visual pornography that pertains to movie clips, hentai, and the like. Interesting reply by you nonetheless. To reply to your comment on the assurance that no women were harmed in the making ofWhat I say to that, is that if there is a woman in a porno, then she herself is causing whatever to happen to her. Some do it because they like it, others just for a paycheck. I am tired of everybody sticking up for the poor misguided woman. Women are just as horny and depraved as men are, they just don't get caught as much. Ever go to a mall for example, and see how guys stare at girls. They are completely obvious about it, but every once in a while you catch women in the act. I used to look out a lot for womankind. I'd say to my friends when I was younger, You need to be nicer to your girl, treat her better. I always thought that men were evil and women were innocent. That was till I
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Re: question about my friend...bluehamster98November 17 2004, 15:27:12 UTC
By the way, are you done collaborating, and where can I read the narrative? Inquiring minds want to know...
We're not done with the story yet. In fact, I have to re-write a couple things, and add an introductory story. :( And we'll distribute the completed narrative on our own; it won't be published on any website unless Matt or I actively seek to get it published by an e-zine or something. :)
Did you have...treebonesNovember 17 2004, 20:46:21 UTC
...a specific incident which caused your epiphany that your religious-path-of-raising was a Bad ThingTM? Or was the process either a gradual erosion of faith, or accretion of new views?
Re: Did you have...matt_arnoldNovember 18 2004, 08:21:45 UTC
I can see many formative processes and influences. One can only change what's inside through the leveraging of other stuff that's already in there; in other words people tend to modify beliefs when they notice that their existing beliefs are fighting each other. This is why I often try to tailor my arguments to appeal to a value or belief that I think my listener already accepts and cherishes, to try to get it fighting with some other belief and feed it at the expense of its competitor. In that regard I see that there were certain crucial elements that I had for most of my life and I merely elevated them when I realized their importance.
For instance, when I was a teenager I read Xenocide by Orson Scott Card. In this novel one of the protagonists has been secretly genetically engineered to have Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder which she has been trained to interpret as messages from the gods so that she can serve in the priesthood. When the plot is uncovered, she defiantly said that even with a cure, the gods would continue to speak to
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Re: Did you have...matt_arnoldNovember 18 2004, 09:48:56 UTC
The last time I told this story, someone suggested someone else to talk to "if I want to restore my religion." In case anyone is having selective listening, let me re-state the following: I do not miss it, I do not need it, I do not want it, I actively wish to avoid it, and I ought to shoot myself in the head rather than go to a priest or rabbi to help me TURN TO THE DARK SIDE. Jeez-o-peets, people.
Re: questionsmatt_arnoldDecember 8 2004, 07:17:30 UTC
A couple of years ago, during the time that Rachel and I were married and living together, our neighborhood was full of feral cats. We often caught them in traps and took them to the humane society. One morning we emerged to find two feral kittens fighting with each other in the flower bed. I caught one and brought it into the flat. When Rachel did not have her usual allergic reaction, we adopted him, took him to the vet, and named him Indigo. He was the most wonderful cat I've ever met. Even though Indigo saw my other pet as prey, he soon learned painfully that the hedgehog would get the better of him every time. A few months later Rachel's cat allergies finally kicked in and we had to give Indigo away to a loving home. We took the loss hard.
For the future, I'm very interested in ferrets and own some books on ferret care. Yes, I am aware that they smell.
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Do you like to watch porn? And how does it make you feel, guilty from your religious upbringing or liberated cause you can?
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The word "watch" is too limiting. If you said "look at" or "read" it would not imply film only, but can include still images or narrative text. I do enjoy porn. No, it does not make me feel guilty.
I am aware that there exists some victimization in the porn industry, and I don't like that at all. My favorite kind is comic books and text stories. Drawings are better than life anyway, and narratives have an element of sexiness that is essential and too often overlooked: situational context. Still images or out-of-context clips always lack this and are not nearly as enjoyable. With drawings and text there is the added assurance that "no actual women were harmed in the making of this work."
Wait a minute, I know that you already know about this. I told you about the porn fiction I'm collaborating on with bluehamster98. You even made suggestions, remember?
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I meant it to be directed at the visual pornography that pertains to movie clips, hentai, and the like. Interesting reply by you nonetheless. To reply to your comment on the assurance that no women were harmed in the making ofWhat I say to that, is that if there is a woman in a porno, then she herself is causing whatever to happen to her. Some do it because they like it, others just for a paycheck. I am tired of everybody sticking up for the poor misguided woman. Women are just as horny and depraved as men are, they just don't get caught as much. Ever go to a mall for example, and see how guys stare at girls. They are completely obvious about it, but every once in a while you catch women in the act. I used to look out a lot for womankind. I'd say to my friends when I was younger, You need to be nicer to your girl, treat her better. I always thought that men were evil and women were innocent. That was till I ( ... )
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We're not done with the story yet. In fact, I have to re-write a couple things, and add an introductory story. :( And we'll distribute the completed narrative on our own; it won't be published on any website unless Matt or I actively seek to get it published by an e-zine or something. :)
-Karen
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For instance, when I was a teenager I read Xenocide by Orson Scott Card. In this novel one of the protagonists has been secretly genetically engineered to have Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder which she has been trained to interpret as messages from the gods so that she can serve in the priesthood. When the plot is uncovered, she defiantly said that even with a cure, the gods would continue to speak to ( ... )
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For the future, I'm very interested in ferrets and own some books on ferret care. Yes, I am aware that they smell.
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