Ammo For Your Shipper Arsenal

[kostgard]

Okay, so this is only tangentially related at best, but it deals with a question that seems to get a lot of mileage out there on the internet, including sites/discussion boards about this show - the question of television ships/couples, how long the writers should drag out the UST and the "Will They or Won't They" and how their refusal to resolve

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[kostgard]

Sorry for all the ugly font - just trying to break it up to make it easier to read.

[tringasolitaria]

I don't know. I've never formulated a clear answer on this for myself, but I do know that I find the emotional caring/slow burn/best friends aspect of a ship more compelling than the more domestic/settled couple/married with children side of a relationship. I don't know if that makes any sense, and I think I'm in the minority on that opinion. :)

Bones

[astrilde]

As they said in the article Bones is really good current example. They are not 'together' but when I finally got around to watching the series 5 opening episode there was so much ship in it I practically drowned. BUT the important part, each case they work on, remains at the focus of the show then it remains the same show. I was a bit peeved with the whole alternate reality thing at the end of series 4 and it was hilarious when they were pretending to be a couple in the circus, how great would it be to see Mary and Marshall have to go undercover as a couple? And it would be SO easy to imagine the scenrio in their line of work (knows there are plenty of fics covering this)

[firthgal]

Oh, I am so with you on the whole Moonlighting thing. My experience battling all the nay-saying, Moonlighting spouting anti-shippers comes from Monk (Monk/Sharona) and Ugly Betty (Daniel/Betty), and in those instances it's the creators, writers, and actors along with the anti-shippers going on about the Moonlighting factor. I just can't stand it, especially since the argument is utterly ridiculous for the reasons stated in those articles. If the writers are talented enough, then they can resolve a slow burn romance at the logical point and successfully transition them into having an established romantic relationship. The problem is that most shows like to throw in ridiculous obstacles (like, in Gilmore Girls, a daughter that shows up out of nowhere) instead of real life problems that people in a marriage or a couple face. The Office is a great example of handling the main couple post-together perfectly. I actually couldn't stand Jim/Pam in seasons 1 through 3, but after they got together I started to enjoy them. How I Met Your

[kostgard]

Oh, I am so with you on the whole Moonlighting thing. My experience battling all the nay-saying, Moonlighting spouting anti-shippers comes from Monk (Monk/Sharona) and Ugly Betty (Daniel/Betty), and in those instances it's the creators, writers, and actors along with the anti-shippers going on about the Moonlighting factor.Interestingly, I just read an interview with UB producer Silvio Horta and he has TOTALLY backed off his "Betty and Daniel will never happen" statement. Now he's all, "Oh, I thought I knew back then, but you know, you reassess and stuff. I know what happens to them now, and my previous statement may or may not be true." I strongly suspect he got his wrist slapped by the network after a big chunk of UB viewers were all, "No Betty/Daniel? That's it. I'm out" since he made that statement not that long ago and it's funny that he's "reassessed" everything in that short period of time

[spud_runner]

I think the fun and enticement of a M/M relationship will be watching how Marshall can break down her defenses, teach her how to love wholeheartedly, and ultimately have his true feelings reciprocated. What I’d like to see this season, no matter what happens with Raph, is for Mary to really treat Marshall like a friend. She claims he’s her best friend, but she doesn’t always show it (especially as of late). We know she’d move heaven and earth for him, and he for her, but I’d like to see more of the soft side of this amazing friendship before we move on to romance. She is so emotionally damaged that she needs a friend more than a lover at this point, and as her relationship with Raph eventually succumbs to the pressures of her job and emotional distress, she will need a true friend to lean on

[kostgard]

She claims he’s her best friend, but she doesn’t always show it (especially as of late). We know she’d move heaven and earth for him, and he for her, but I’d like to see more of the soft side of this amazing friendship before we move on to romance. She is so emotionally damaged that she needs a friend more than a lover at this point, and as her relationship with Raph eventually succumbs to the pressures of her job and emotional distress, she will need a true friend to lean on.Totally agree with you on that. I actually want them to put Mary's love life on the back burner for a while after this thing with Raph ends (and dammit, they better end it). Since the network apparently wants to focus on more work stuff, that's the perfect opportunity to explore this kind of stuff. We haven't really seen Mary move heaven and earth for him since "Trojan Horst" in the first season. It's been all Marshall doing things for Mary - even when Marshall's witness (whom he obviously liked a lot) killed himself in "Duplicate Bridge" it still felt like it

[astrilde]

I'm expecting that as soon as Mary's life is no longer in jeopardy (as I am fairly sure they aren't killing her off) Raph won't ever want her to go back to her job and there will be world war 3 over it. Marshall on the other hand will only be concerned that she will come back too soon and before she is fully recovered. He wouldn't presume to think that she can't or shouldn't come back. Ultimately in my image of S3 the job is what will separate Mary and Raph not anything to do with Marshall. He will however be her constant to deal with everything life throws at her