I swear I didn't even realize that this arc is somehow already a year and some odd months old.... at least it was good for lulz while it lasted even though plot logic seemed to be....if I say missing, that's normal for this manga...so...i guess the word i'm looking for is...extra...missing?
Yeah, it kind of flew by... though a year and a half is still fairly short as long as far as story arcs go. Or maybe I'm just still thinking in terms of the Future Arc where it took us like two years just to get halfway through the arc. I expect that's why she's rushed her way through most of this one, heh
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Also, WHAT THE FUCK, SERIOUSLY. How many late nights did they stay up plotting all of this out to the smallest detail? And when are we going to get to the next arc where inevitably Tsuna and Enma will find another set of keys and this series eventually leadis to them discovering how they have also inherited all of their predecessors' gambling debts?
Most amazing summery ever and I hope Amano reads this.
I expect they will also find out that Giotto and Cozart's excess use of their respective dying will flames are also the cause of this generation's global warming crisis, which they are expected to resolve in the next 24 hours or else the Vindice will toss all of their friends into a volcano.
You know, by my interpretation, both Giotto and Cozart were operating under the assumption that if their families ever did battle, it would be as a result of Daemon Spade's rampant dickery, or some other sort of misunderstanding (which is where the displaying of memories went in, I guess. REMEMBER HOW BROS YOUR ANCESTORS WERE.). So, if the descendants saw the memories and still didn't try to go for diplomacy, then they were just being dicks throwing super-powered tantrums and deserved to be sent to the corner of shame.
It's not much nicer, but it does have a sort of internal logic...? Or maybe I'm just trying to make things make sense.
Yes, but Daemon Spade is precisely the reason why I'd have thought they would think twice before making a deal like this to begin with. They are fully aware there is a guy out there obsessively dedicated to causing a rift between their two families, so they decide sure, why not, if that ever does happen let's implement this long and torturous one-memory-at-a-time process so that our descendants can painstakingly find out that they were wrong and their ancestors were bros all along, and realize the error of their ways long after some of them have already been imprisoned or even killed? I mean, Bermuda explicitly says that they will imprison the losers of each battle until they die, and Giotto just shrugs and says it's fine, as long as they get the memories of what really went down beforehand
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But from my understanding, according to Giotto and Cozart's conditions, when they called the battle off the prisoners would be freed as well, no? Or did I make this up? It's been a few days since I read this chapter.
I'm willing to wait until Daemon Spade's defeated and Julie's piece of memory is available before making judgements. Maybe Giotto and Cozart put some other things in motion, I dunno.
If they had thrown that in that would have redeemed a large part of what's been driving me crazy about the flashbacks, but unless this translation is wrong, they made no mention of that whatsoever. Giotto said "that's fine" and Cozart said "but if they return to their true friendship and honor this oath, their wills will become one and our flames will burn." Nothing at all about freeing the prisoners. (And if they had thrown in that condition, you'd think the Vindice would have held off on hauling the losers off to be locked up until after all seven battles were completed, just to be sure.)
And I thought this was the last memory, though? I thought there were only seven keys, and the last memory just got released early for dramatic effect? ...then again, did they ever mention how many keys there were? Maybe I'm making things up now. XD
I can't overlook the fact that their blatant disregard for the wellbeing of their children's children has kept me magnificently entertained for the duration of this arc.
Yup! I love that they basically care NOTHING WHATSOEVER for their descendants(/reincarnations). It makes everything incredibly hilarious. (Also, note that they didn't actually say the Vindice weren't allowed to lock their descendants up and torture them if they went all buddy-buddy again. Guess they figured if the kids couldn't fight the Mafia Police off two-on-all they weren't worth saving.)
Also, WHAT THE FUCK, SERIOUSLY. How many late nights did they stay up plotting all of this out to the smallest detail? And when are we going to get to the next arc where inevitably Tsuna and Enma will find another set of keys and this series eventually leads to them discovering how they have also inherited all of their predecessors' gambling debts?. . . I would actually really enjoy seeing Tsuna and Enma freaking the fuck out over the billions and billions of yen (the Mafia is
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Also, note that they didn't actually say the Vindice weren't allowed to lock their descendants up and torture them if they went all buddy-buddy again.YES. They didn't even bother to put a "but if they do see the error of their ways afterward, you have to let them go!" clause in there; the closest they got was Cozart saying that "their wills will become one." So I guess they figured they could use that new Oath Flame to take on the Vindice afterward if things came to that, but even if they did manage to bust everyone else out of jail and escape, they'd basically be hunted for the rest of their lives. So that's fun
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...I spent pretty much the entire flashback being like, G HOW ARE YOU LETTING THIS HAPPEN??? I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE ONE WITH A BRAIN.
Clearly that was my mistake. Either he really is just a pretty face and Gokudera won all the brain in that ancestor contest, or else he's that trampled down by Giotto. Which. Would actually be pretty hilarious. XD
Also, wtf is wrong with Cozart? "Roast them, burn them," was he not hugged enough as a child or what? D:
This arc gave us Owlkuro, though. For that alone, I can forgive very nearly any failures of logic. ^_^
So should we be excited for the next chapter or just terrified? I can't decide.
G always seemed fairly smart to me, so I guess it must be that his one weakness is that he's a little too loyal to Giotto, I guess. Here I thought that one of a consigliere's main job functions was to advise the boss/point out whenever if he is about to do something particularly stupid, but I guess that's just not the way in KHR?
elanor_pam and storm_obsession have pointed out the ROAST THEM BURN THEM thing was only on the condition that they still wanted to fight each other even after learning the true bro history of their ancestors, but even so, it still seems pretty harsh to me. For one thing, as all-seeing as Giotto and Cozart might fancy themselves, they had no way of knowing whether some other tragedy might occur down the line that would cause a rift between the families that not even magical flashbacks could heal. For example, one boss's father brutally murdering the family of the other boss. Yes, that turned out to be a lie, thank God, but either way, those guys don't seem to have taken that kind of possibility into account
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heh....rainbow cape wearing crusader....teeheee....
also please to be having more bad ass looking reborn's like in that last panel XDDDD
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Most amazing summery ever and I hope Amano reads this.
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STAY TUNED. IT'S HAPPENING!
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It's not much nicer, but it does have a sort of internal logic...? Or maybe I'm just trying to make things make sense.
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I'm willing to wait until Daemon Spade's defeated and Julie's piece of memory is available before making judgements. Maybe Giotto and Cozart put some other things in motion, I dunno.
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And I thought this was the last memory, though? I thought there were only seven keys, and the last memory just got released early for dramatic effect? ...then again, did they ever mention how many keys there were? Maybe I'm making things up now. XD
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Yup! I love that they basically care NOTHING WHATSOEVER for their descendants(/reincarnations). It makes everything incredibly hilarious. (Also, note that they didn't actually say the Vindice weren't allowed to lock their descendants up and torture them if they went all buddy-buddy again. Guess they figured if the kids couldn't fight the Mafia Police off two-on-all they weren't worth saving.)
Also, WHAT THE FUCK, SERIOUSLY. How many late nights did they stay up plotting all of this out to the smallest detail? And when are we going to get to the next arc where inevitably Tsuna and Enma will find another set of keys and this series eventually leads to them discovering how they have also inherited all of their predecessors' gambling debts?. . . I would actually really enjoy seeing Tsuna and Enma freaking the fuck out over the billions and billions of yen (the Mafia is ( ... )
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Clearly that was my mistake. Either he really is just a pretty face and Gokudera won all the brain in that ancestor contest, or else he's that trampled down by Giotto. Which. Would actually be pretty hilarious. XD
Also, wtf is wrong with Cozart? "Roast them, burn them," was he not hugged enough as a child or what? D:
This arc gave us Owlkuro, though. For that alone, I can forgive very nearly any failures of logic. ^_^
So should we be excited for the next chapter or just terrified? I can't decide.
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elanor_pam and storm_obsession have pointed out the ROAST THEM BURN THEM thing was only on the condition that they still wanted to fight each other even after learning the true bro history of their ancestors, but even so, it still seems pretty harsh to me. For one thing, as all-seeing as Giotto and Cozart might fancy themselves, they had no way of knowing whether some other tragedy might occur down the line that would cause a rift between the families that not even magical flashbacks could heal. For example, one boss's father brutally murdering the family of the other boss. Yes, that turned out to be a lie, thank God, but either way, those guys don't seem to have taken that kind of possibility into account ( ... )
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