Puella Magi Madoka Magica 9 Discussion

[salemjeanette]

 

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[hoshinautau]

Kyoko has really grown on me, it was sad to see her go. ;_; I found it rather touching though that she didn't want to let Sayaka die alone. >_<

Oh, and Kyubey talking to Homura at the end only made me want to bash the white furball even more. But then he would probably just regenerate and eat the old body. o_o

[pixypixymisa]

I cried. It was the first time an anime ever made me cry. Like, ever. Movies have managed to do it maybe... twice? Usually it takes a sad pet story (y'know, the kind where a kid gets a pet and it's his BFF for years and then it dies). Nothing in Madoka has come close so far. But the end with Kyouko and Sayaka made me cry for a moment. I had come to love Sayaka and Kyouko and the way Kyouko felt... I knew they could never have a happy ending, and I figured this would happen, but it still hit hard

[sevendials]

To be totally fair, thus far we only have Kyuubey's word for it. I don't have any real objections to it as a plot point myself, but Kyuubey's proved over and over again to be incredibly manipulative and most definitely economical with the truth when it serves his purpose to do so. If this turns out to be the full truth of what he's doing and why I won't personally be disappointed, but I'll be surprised. At this point if Kyuubey told me water could be kind of wet, I'd want it backed up by at least two other sources (who were not two other Kyuubeys).

[pixypixymisa]

That's definitely something I thought of, and it's something I'm hoping for. I even mentioned it to my boyfriend as a consolation when he was even more >B about it than me. xD That he could be lying is a possibility, though I feel it's more likely that he's only telling part of the truth. That's his normal mode of operation. I can't recall an occasion that he actually lied. What he does is refrain from telling the whole story when not asked. So I figure this energy thing DOES apply, just that there's more to it. Even if there's more, it's going to bug me. xD;

[curepinkrainbow]

I get what you totally mean about the law of conservation thing, but something tells me that's not it completely.

RIP Kyoko ; w ;

[astrokittie]

Did anyone else notice the Bokurano reference (the chairs)? My friend pointed it out to me and I've started reading it, and hot damn there are a lot of similarities.

[llyse]

Cha--OH WAIT. I didn't until you pointed it out! And the dolls appearing and disappearing with QB on the chairs, ffffffff. I swear one of them looks like the small form of the witch that ate Mami.

Brb matching chairs nao.

[astrokittie]

I was gonna start trying to match them up after I finished Bokurano. I'm pulling an all nighter to do it.
I can definitely see a lot of influences drawn from it in Madoka.

[mugyu]

Yes. Actually the whole show has a lot of similarities to Bokurano. QB is pretty much dung beetle (less of an asshole version), the children die after they have used up their energy is in this case the same as using up your soul gem's energy.

Nevertheless I like the show, and liked episode 9 as well. The entropy explanation was kinda out of place but it was a plausible plot device.

[chibi_mitsuki]

;w;

Kyoko and (especially for me) Sayaka will be missed. Sayaka grew to be one of my favorite characters (up there with Mami) so it was really sad to see her downfall. But it makes me love her more because of all of the development she got. It really shows that even selfless wishes are dangerous. Are they really for that person, or just for yourself?

I honestly think Sayaka was really trying for Kyouske, but the boy just never saw it. Even before she made that wish for him. She tried really hard to make him happy, but to no avail. Love is a double edged sword, but if you have people there to support you, then sometimes it can get you through the hardest of times. Sayaka did have that, but because she was so heartbroken, she just couldn't see it. Thank god for Kyoko though. Its just like she said, at first, Kyoko wanted to kill her, but seeing Sayaka's determination and dedication really shined through.

dskljf rambling

[retrofutures]

I'm still massively BSODing over Kyoko's fate even though I figured this was it for her. Honestly when her backstory ep came up, I figured she had zero percent chance of surviving the series and I was just hoping for an exit akin to Asuka in End of Evangelion. Go out with a bang on Walpurgisnacht! But this is ultimately more satisfying (even though it leaves Homura without a bro) and I feel her development was extremely well done. Characterization-wise, I feel that the series is just very elegantly and sparingly crafted because of how neatly her "redemption" and Sayaka's fall come together.

Onto the entropy thing, I'm still not sure where I'll come down on this reveal. One the one hand BUH?! suddenly aliens and physics and science. On the other hand, it's fascinating how the creators did twist our expectations against us. From the word go, speculation has been running wild about this series and as each episode surprise buttsexed our brains, debates on Kyubey's a/morality raged, theories got crazier but is it safe to say that

[retrofutures]

And slightly OT but does this ever make me want crossovers with Terry Practchett's Discworld Auditors and with the wizards of Diane Duane's Young Wizards books.

[retrofutures]

...and that should be heat death WHY DO I ALWAYS MAKE THE WORST ERRORS augh

Re: dskljf rambling

[deadtree]

talking about target audience, you're thinking of the seinen demographic, correct?