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lyssie

SFF: addendum (Daybreak episode review)

Mar 23, 2009 22:53

BSG: I killed some deer in here, sorry (no, really, 3500+ words...)

*props feet up*

So. I sort of meant to do this over the weekend and didn't.

Some of this is a bit colored by other peoples' comments and episode reviews. (now I can go read my flist)
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snark, rambling, sff, sff:battlestar galactica (new)

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lyssie March 25 2009, 01:21:06 UTC

I would adore both stories. Or lots of them, really. Sigh.

=)

radon_ March 24 2009, 09:10:48 UTC

And what was the point of Caprica's baby and Caprica/Tigh if there's no fall-out at all?
I think it was to show that Cylon-Cylon babies are NOT possible, and thus for the Cylon race to continue, they have to join the humans in harmony blahblahblah so that they can both have a future. Which was why Hera was so important. In other words, RDM had no idea what to do with Caprica. And he wanted the whole soap opera thing when Ellen returned.

I don't believe Sam was happy as a hybrid, I don't believe that was the best use of him, and I refuse to believe that was it for him.
Me neither. I mean, I like the whole perfection monologue he did in the flashbacks because it was really pretty and all, but it sounded so last minute, like, we need a reason to pretend Sammy's happy with being a Hybrid. I hated that he got shot in the first place. pffft.

go play cards with Racetrack and Dee and D'Anna and Natalie (Natalie has a horrible poker face)Dear gods, please let there be fic of this ( ... )

lyssie March 25 2009, 01:10:06 UTC

n other words, RDM had no idea what to do with Caprica. And he wanted the whole soap opera thing when Ellen returned.

BINGO. ugh.

Dear gods, please let there be fic of this.

maybe if we wish hard enough? Sigh.

Leoben was entirely wasted, and I was heartily annoyed by that. But I suppose we couldn't spend the time with him that we could with major characters, like Adama (they could have cut his angstful staring scenes and given us Leoben instead)

havocthecat March 24 2009, 13:02:26 UTC

I don't even watch the show any more (I couldn't take the manpain), and I still love your reviews of the episodes.

lyssie March 25 2009, 01:07:01 UTC

*g* Thank you.

prozacpark March 24 2009, 13:20:47 UTC

8). Yeah, I'm totally one of those people. ;) But mostly because I...don't like what I think Ron is trying to say with it, even though I can probably fanwank it to a place where I'm okay with it.

Bottom line? You cannot have it both ways: either it's skanky when they do it to both sets of SOs, or it's not skanky at all.

At least for Lee, it's a different scenario in that Sam isn't related to him. It's his side of the thing that bugs me more. And Kara cheating on Sam is still sort of...about Sam/Kara for me, if that makes any sense? I mean, there are her feelings for Lee, but it's still very much about Sam, too. While Kara and Zak seem happy enough, and I imagine there was no Leoben mindfuckery there to be used as a catalyst. IDK. It's one of those things that's bugging me for reasons I'm having a hard time expressing in a coherent way.

I also wonder about the rammifications of male writers always choosing sex as a female character's outlet to display her neuroses, though Kara is nowhere near Grace Hanadarko's level ( ... )

lyssie March 25 2009, 01:06:42 UTC

8. I don't like what Ron's saying with it, either (although I've been told it's a common pattern amongst women who've been abused as children).

9. Shit. Now I'm glad I had to leave the room. I did not just sniffle like a small child and need a hanky. Honest. Good god. Those two. <3 But ouch. But. <3

Also, for the record? It's eerie, re-watching Resistance/The Farm with how it went from fling to epic otp of epicness.

prozacpark March 25 2009, 01:28:29 UTC

8). It is, yes. But I also suspect that the reason abused women develop that pattern is because of the messed up gender dynamics/views of sexuality that are a part of our culture. And doesn't BSG want me to think that their world is a lot more egalitarian? ;)

9). Wasn't it lovely? Is it wrong that my brain refuses to go to the ouch place? I don't know if I'm heartless or just too squee-filled over it, but I just sort of giggle with bubbly happiness every time I watch it. I feel like I'm five, but that's okay because <3 ( ... )

lyssie March 25 2009, 01:46:45 UTC

I suspect that Sam/Kara sort of wrote itself and is a million times better for it.

eta: There was supposed to be a WORD, here.

I suspect it has a lot to do with Trucco and Katee, too. Half those scenes would never have worked if the two of them had no chemistry.

I also suspect that the main culprit was the writers' need to shoe-horn people into places they didn't fit at various times so they could keep dangling Kara/Lee.

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neonstilettos March 25 2009, 15:47:24 UTC

I've stalked my way here from galacticanews to tl;dr in your comments; is that okay? If not, you can /shoo me.

Anyway, after being severely disappointed by almost everything in the second half of the finale, I'm focusing on the things I did like :) Which are, incidentally, a lot of things you've discussed :p

Simon could read the phonebook to me and I'd listen.

Oh, this. After "The Farm" I was sorely disappointed at his lack of presence and characterization. I thought he always seemed like the most reluctant (or at least ambivalent) of Cavil's co-conspirators (he was concerned about Hera having not eaten anything), so what were his feelings about everything that happened? I want to see The Plan right now.

The centurions with their military gestures made me so very gleeful. I SQUEAKED at it, and decided it was Very Hot. Which is scary, I'll admit.

Um, yes. I've been fascinated with them since the miniseries, but in this episode they were just... really hot. If that's wrong, I don't want to be right!

14. Leoben. I almost forgot how annoyed I ( ... )

lyssie March 26 2009, 02:29:09 UTC

to tl;dr in your comments; is that okay? If not, you can /shoo me.

Bwah. Considering how long I rambled? No worries. Sadly, though, most of my response is "word" and "Yeah!" and such. I think NCIS and Bones have fried our brains.

Even more problematic than the fact he killed Tory, though, was the total lack of consequences for his actions.

Yes, this. Others have commented on it, thank goodness. I sort of missed it in my analysis. Sigh (partially because I only watched it the once)

the show was going to end with Ellen "turning" to Cavil's side out of spite and jealousy,

... .... .. That... That is actually worse than I'd expected. WTF. God. They really do just throw darts at a board!

.to say nothing of the way all the human female characters are, um, dead by the end of the show. Now that's an entirely frightening point. I sometimes forget Cylons aren't humans. And I am actually a bit floored by that. You're right, though. We don't know how any of the human women settled, just the Cylon. And while I love them ( ... )