You know, it's the weirdest thing, but I was thinking about the death penalty on the way home yesterday. I absolutely can't remember why, except to say that it was one of those crazy leaps my mind took.
I don't know if you watch the West Wing, but there's this episode where CJ says that she thinks she should care about the death penalty, but she really doesn't, and that's kind of how I feel. I object to it on the grounds that I think we can never be absolutely certain of guilt, but if we could be, I'm not sure it would keep me up nights if people who harm children or rape or murder were given the death penalty. I just can't get particularly worked up about it.
I have some Thea Gilmore on this computer I can send you. And I have a subscription to emusic which I don't use nearly enough of, and they have all Thea Gilmore's albums. If you want, I can download them and send them to you.
Ooh, thank you! But don't waste your subscription if there's other stuff you want to download. If they're all on there, I see they have a free trial subscription, so I can just sign up.
I get 40 songs a month, and I never, ever use them all, so don't worry about it. But, thinking about it, the albums I think you'd want I already have. I've got Songs from the Gutter, Rules for Jokers, and random tracks from some of the other albums. You've already got Avalanche, right?
Do you have a gmail account? Or something big enough to take attachments? If you do and you let me know it, I'll just send them that way.
If you could send me some tracks from Songs from the Gutter, that would be wonderful! I have Rules for Jokers now, thanks to nightpig (see above). Is there any music you can think of that you'd like in return?
What to you think of emusic? Worth a subscription?
I do have a gmail account - I'll send you an email from it now.
I agree with you: the death penalty is barbaric. I'm glad that the possibility of it ever being reintroduced in Britain has been ruled out more or less for certain.
I'm not sure I disagree with the death penalty or agree with it either. It's not that I don't care about it, but I think it's ambigious. (Even though I'm glad Australia doesn't have capital punishment).
I won't defend it, but I will defend the right of other countries to be able to implement it in their justice system without the interference of other countries.
I don't know, however, I know with the Van Ngyuen case and the Bali Nine (I don't know if you've followed the news here, I think it happened before you moved but they are where Australians have been arrested for drug trafficking in Singapore and Indonesia) I felt disappointed with the verdicts, but not angry. I did feel angry at people for being angry though, and also dissapointed with our Government in the Van Nyguen case, because they could have done something a lot earlier, before it could have been called interference
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Thanks for your interesting input. I've been watching the Bali Nine case, and it's all very depressing (not least the fact that the Australian customs officials seemed to fix it so they were arrested in Indonesia in order to make some kind of example of them). Not that I'm trying to excuse the offenders - if you're trafficking drugs through a country that imposes the death penalty, then you're going into the situation with your eyes wide open as far as I'm concerned.
I won't defend it, but I will defend the right of other countries to be able to implement it in their justice system without the interference of other countries.
I agree with this, much as I dislike the idea of the death penalty.
Death isn't really a punishment.
See, to me, death is the ultimate punishment, possibly because I believe that what happens after you die is - nothing. That's why I don't think anything ever justifies killing, whether in war or because of a crime.
The Bali Nine just exasperates me (all parts of it), and anyone else who gets arrested for drug trafficking in those sorts of countries. I can't believe anyone would think the money would be worth it, and if you get caught, I imagine you don't get paid and you might lose you life.
See, to me, death is the ultimate punishment, possibly because I believe that what happens after you die is - nothing.Maybe I came off too flippantly, I'm not sure, but to me that sort of belief would be comforting after I had committed a crime that is worthy of capital punishment (I'm not saying there is, because I've thought about this, and punishment seems to me, to depend on the psyche of the person in question and whether they're able to recognise guilt etc.)However as an effective deterrent? I think that in many cases the death penalty fails
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I really liked your entry on Orwell and Abu Grab the other day, by the way.
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Also, I have a bunch of Thea Gilmore which I'll upload for you. She's brilliant.
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I have a bunch of Thea Gilmore which I'll upload for you.
Ooh, thank you - that would be lovely!
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The Lipstick Conspiracies (full album) - I love 'See If They Applaud' on this one.
Rules for Jokers (full album)
Loft Music (full album) - This is her covers album, which I adore.
Bonus cover of my favourite Clash song - I'm Not Down
Enjoy!
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Your music collection seems more extensive and eclectic than my own, but if there's anything I can offer in return, feel free to ask :).
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I don't know if you watch the West Wing, but there's this episode where CJ says that she thinks she should care about the death penalty, but she really doesn't, and that's kind of how I feel. I object to it on the grounds that I think we can never be absolutely certain of guilt, but if we could be, I'm not sure it would keep me up nights if people who harm children or rape or murder were given the death penalty. I just can't get particularly worked up about it.
I have some Thea Gilmore on this computer I can send you. And I have a subscription to emusic which I don't use nearly enough of, and they have all Thea Gilmore's albums. If you want, I can download them and send them to you.
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Ooh, thank you! But don't waste your subscription if there's other stuff you want to download. If they're all on there, I see they have a free trial subscription, so I can just sign up.
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Do you have a gmail account? Or something big enough to take attachments? If you do and you let me know it, I'll just send them that way.
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What to you think of emusic? Worth a subscription?
I do have a gmail account - I'll send you an email from it now.
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I won't defend it, but I will defend the right of other countries to be able to implement it in their justice system without the interference of other countries.
I don't know, however, I know with the Van Ngyuen case and the Bali Nine (I don't know if you've followed the news here, I think it happened before you moved but they are where Australians have been arrested for drug trafficking in Singapore and Indonesia) I felt disappointed with the verdicts, but not angry. I did feel angry at people for being angry though, and also dissapointed with our Government in the Van Nyguen case, because they could have done something a lot earlier, before it could have been called interference ( ... )
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I won't defend it, but I will defend the right of other countries to be able to implement it in their justice system without the interference of other countries.
I agree with this, much as I dislike the idea of the death penalty.
Death isn't really a punishment.
See, to me, death is the ultimate punishment, possibly because I believe that what happens after you die is - nothing. That's why I don't think anything ever justifies killing, whether in war or because of a crime.
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See, to me, death is the ultimate punishment, possibly because I believe that what happens after you die is - nothing.Maybe I came off too flippantly, I'm not sure, but to me that sort of belief would be comforting after I had committed a crime that is worthy of capital punishment (I'm not saying there is, because I've thought about this, and punishment seems to me, to depend on the psyche of the person in question and whether they're able to recognise guilt etc.)However as an effective deterrent? I think that in many cases the death penalty fails ( ... )
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