Talking Meme #2

Nov 29, 2014 20:49

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talking meme, jane austen, north and south, historical, i capture the castle, matthew macfadyen, picspam, 1990s, 1980s, pride and prejudice, children's literature, richard armitage, anthony trollope, meme

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a_phoenixdragon November 29 2014, 21:49:47 UTC
Ahhh, thou art more cultured than I. Which is kind of the norm with most of my listy, so I have no idea why I am bovvered by this. Just...wow, I really need to read some of these and watch the films/adaptations. I usually have a quibble with adaptations. Most of them do not hold true and have a tendency to rub me the wrong way (if I read the book/saw the original material before it was adapted ( ... )

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a_phoenixdragon November 30 2014, 02:53:16 UTC
Ohh, thank you! *Makes note* Very helpful! *smiles*

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lost_spook November 30 2014, 08:42:21 UTC
:lol; There isn't anything very cultured about this post! These BBC adaptations are mainstream TV events - it's hard to avoid them and people tend to sneer at you for liking them! You're forgetting, I'm British, we watch the BBC a lot, and sometimes ITV. (We do have other channels now, but we didn't used to have very many back when some of these were made!) As for having read them, well, when I was around 14,15 and ill and bored and starting to venture uncertainly into adult books, I decided that anything marked "classic" must be good and went on this epic binge of reading such things - and I was young enough still just to take them as good or bad stories, which I think worked out as a very good thing. I have no regrets! But, yes, not terribly high-culture, you know!! I just love these stories and the BBC are absolutely the best at doing adaptations - I have a whole bunch of them I love. This could have been a very long list ( ... )

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ladymercury_10 November 30 2014, 02:29:09 UTC
This was a BBC children's TV adaptation of Rumer Godden's The Dolls' House,
I misread this at first and thought it was an adaptation of the Henrik Ibsen play A Doll's House, and was briefly terrified by the idea of that play adapted for stop-motion. :P

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lost_spook November 30 2014, 08:44:29 UTC
Ahaha, yes, that would probably have been a bit much for BBC Children's TV. Or at least, so I imagine, not really ever having seen or read A Doll's House.

Mind you, 1980s CBBC, you never quite know... 0_o

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ladymercury_10 November 30 2014, 16:55:06 UTC
It's about a woman in a stifling marriage, and I feel like actually acting it out with dolls would just be really unsettling somehow. :P

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moetushie November 30 2014, 04:43:31 UTC
2005 Pride and Prejudice had a very cute amr. bing leg, but otherwise was unremarkable. The miniseries, however, is a classic for a reason. I'll have to dust off my DVDs and give them ago -- it'll take some time, because of course I can't just watch one episo de!

North and South -- yeeeesssss.

I'm not very fond of I Capture The Castle -- mostly because I love the novel too much to be really objective. And yeah, it does get some of the casting right (Cassandra, Stephen, Mortmain), but... I thunk the problem for me was that I could grin and bear the romantic subplot in the novel (because I loved everything else) but in the film, it's unbearable! The guy they had playing Simon was just awful, I couldn't understand Cassandra's infatuation at all, tbh.

Ahem. Sorry for the essay. Apparently I have Feelings about this subject.

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lost_spook November 30 2014, 08:47:47 UTC
I was asking myself when I wrote this why I still like the film so much, because I do have issues with it (although I don't mind Simon - I think it's Cassandra's feelings, and Rose's, that matter and he and Neil kind of don't really, but then I don't actively hate him, that would be off-putting) but I just always end up watching it again - and then of course, re-reading the book to get the second half right! You're right, though, they take the romance much too seriously. I suppose it would be hard to do otherwise - but it is so much about the experience of being in love for the first time rather than the romance itself and the book doesn't lose the humour.

And yet I just love it. I don't know, what can I say?

Feelings about I Capture the Castle are perfectly understandable! It would be a sad thing to have read it and remained unmoved. ♥

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persiflage_1 November 30 2014, 06:55:48 UTC
You're quite right - BBC Pride and Prejudice is THE P&P!! All shall bow down before it...

I must re-watch I Capture the Castle - I saw it before I knew who Bill Nighy was, and I'm sure I didn't appreciate him in it enough!

I've seen The Way We Live Now - watched it purely for MM (after falling in love with him in Spooks).

Haven't seen the other two though.

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lost_spook November 30 2014, 08:50:57 UTC
Yep! I've seen the 1980 BBC, and the 2005 film and while I enjoyed them, they don't compare! :-)

Ha, yes, you should always appreciate Bill NIghy properly.

I believe you once tried to watch North & South and didn't much like it. (We had a conversation about this once before, I thought & when I checked my tag for it, I could see I was right. I think you weren't keen on Mrs Gaskell & not even the BBC could persuade you otherwise - well, until they played unfair and brought in Judi!!) As for Tottie, I don't suppose anyone who wasn't around 6 at the time knows what that is, but I did adore it when I was a wee thing. You know how it is with things you imprint on when you're tiny!

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persiflage_1 November 30 2014, 09:10:41 UTC
No they don't - and much as I ADORE Judi - her Lady C isn't quite right. I mean, I got a kick out of seeing her do it, but...

*giggles* Indeed one should! He's worth proper appreciation!

Oh - I'd forgotten that, but somehow I'm not surprised. And, to be fair, it wasn't JUST Judi that made me love Cranford - though I concede she's the main reason! But it's got a stellar cast all round!

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lost_spook November 30 2014, 13:12:49 UTC
Well, there are usually at least one or two good things in each adaptation & Judi would always be a good thing! :-)

Oh, yes, Cranford is excellent - I was only teasing! (Even if Judi is a big draw, obviously. ;-p) Even if, it being three Gaskell things in one, the body count reaches quite ridiculously high proportions.

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flowsoffire November 30 2014, 10:48:43 UTC
Those sound lovely! Especially the first ones-children stuff with dark undertones can be quite fascinating :)

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lost_spook November 30 2014, 13:14:26 UTC
Thank you! I think they are, though this is, as requested, just as list of my favourites, and not necessarily what I think are the best adaptations (though, of course, those two things match quite often). I used to be, as you can see, a complete sucker for all the BBC Classic adaptations! (They really haven't done a big one for a while - they're overdue for another.)

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flowsoffire November 30 2014, 13:47:46 UTC
BBC Classic sounds quite wonderful! ^_^

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