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Aug 17, 2013 07:55


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swordznsorcery August 17 2013, 17:09:42 UTC
Um... well there's a cheery card. I can't decide if you're braver than me or just madder. ;) I'm allergic to h/c, though. I know there's a space for it when it's done well, but fanfic has turned it into something that I cannot bear, especially the tendency of shippy fic to write perfectly strong characters as people who can't even tie their own shoelaces without bursting into tears and needing to be cuddled. This is horribly true of "A-Team" fic, where Face is forever being written that way, so I have developed a very low tolerance of the entire trope.

Besides, characters discussing feelings, and hugging and stuff, gets in the way of the fun bits. Plane crashes and alien abductions and natural disasters should be action scenes, not soul-searching. But then I have all the empathy of a bowl of fruit. :)

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lost_spook August 17 2013, 19:33:33 UTC
I think, being in DW and not tending to ship fic much, I've avoided the worst of it. And I like interpersonal dynamics. Not necessarily fluffy or soppy, but... that's interesting to write, and often very subtle, and I like playing with that. More interesting than explosions and more lasting. )Unless the explosion is really so-mo, I suppose, but what's the point in that?)
I am probably madder? I just thought it would be interesting. And I've already written sadistic plane crash fic for S&S.

Besides, characters discussing feelings, and hugging and stuff, gets in the way of the fun bits. Plane crashes and alien abductions and natural disasters should be action scenes, not soul-searching. Well, to be serious in the middle of your flippancy, it's about getting the balance of both - no emotion, no characterisation and your explosions and action have no interest or impact because we don't care who's getting blown up and all fluff and no substance isn't very exciting, either. Although, given ficlets and things in fanfic you can get ( ... )

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swordznsorcery August 17 2013, 19:53:39 UTC
No! Explosions are always good!

Your points are good ones. Well written h/c can fit in well in any scenario, and can add depth to a character. Thinking back to "The West Wing", there was that great scene when Josh was suffering from PTSD, and Leo was reassuring him about his job, and told him that story about the guy in the hole. Great scene, nicely written and nicely played, which helped to show the closeness of the characters. B5 did bits like that well too.

On the face of it, some of those prompts are interesting ones, certainly (some, not so much)!. Something like a plane crash could obviously lead to h/c if somebody is hurt or afraid. That's where the dark spectre of fanfic rears its ugly head, though! Heavy on the character assassination, on the whump, and probably on the healing sex while they're at it. Oh fanfic, I did so like you once upon a time. Years ago, back in the nineties, before the internet allowed the riff-raff in. ;)

Edited for typing stupidity.

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lost_spook August 17 2013, 20:11:30 UTC
What about explosions that blow up one or more of your very favourite characters? What then? ;-D And I do think slo-mo explosions do start to look silly, depending. (There is a lovely slo-mo explosion fade in Spooks 2.2, which is just beautiful in so many ways, one of my favourite TV moments, but usually you want a loud bang and a lot of flames and stuff flying everywhere rapidly. ... I do like explosions, too. I just need people-stuff as well.)

I think the thing is, with almost any genre, it's mostly about good writing over bad. (And, yes, that is such a good scene - and in many ways you could also throw in Bartlet in Two Cathedrals, at the end.)

Yep, now I've got this prompt list, I'm going to write OOC whump, lots of pr0n and cut my hair and be somebody else. That's the plan. :-D

It's no good calling me riff-raff, either. I am, but I was here in the 90s, too.

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honeynoir August 17 2013, 20:51:03 UTC
Ooh, that it can be either hurt or comfort opens up many more possibilities than H and C...

*cheers you on*

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lost_spook August 18 2013, 07:29:30 UTC
Yes! That was what encouraged me to sign up, because I think my comfort can be a little... invisible sometimes. I know it's there. Also, I could write fluff if I wanted not to be angsty any more.

:-)

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clocketpatch August 18 2013, 02:49:42 UTC
I've ended up signing up. I've never done one of these BINGO cards before, but I've always been more-or-less interested when flisters bring them up, and winter is coming and all of that so... time to find things to do.

H/C seems up my ally, since it seems to be most of what I write, though several people in the comments here are very down on it as a genre and leave me wondering if what I define as H/C actually is H/C, though, I will say, this: It just looks much weirder when it's a prompt. "Ooh, let's write a nice torture fic, why not?" made me laugh right out loud. Because it seems like something I might do, though it is dependant on characters and fandom and whether said characters would act interestingly in said situation or whether it would be just... skiffy. Because it does irk me when the H in that equation goes on and on and on for no purpose, and I've definitely abandoned otherwise well written fics that have been guilty of that ( ... )

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lost_spook August 18 2013, 07:36:46 UTC
Oh, yay! \o/

It looks pretty flexible and I'm not sure they even have any penalties for non-completion, so good luck - I'll look forward to seeing your card!

On a different (same) subject. That Apocalypse bingo thing... I saw you coming up with prompts in another comment, but could I be so bold as to add:Oh, of course! Why not? I think some of those I have in different phrasing (but then I don't like all my phrasing) - meteor strike, at least, but time loops is a good one, and Endless Winter. I had natural disasters and stuff that would cause nuclear winter, but endless winter can be fantasy or nuclear winter, so that's probably a much better way to put it. What's EMP ( ... )

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john_amend_all August 18 2013, 10:00:43 UTC

What's EMP?

Ace: An electro-magnetic pulse effect.

Doctor: Caused by?

Ace: A nuclear explosion, usually.

Doctor: Very good.

When you mention the end of Foundation, do you mean Assimilated By Alien Group-Mind from Foundation and Earth, or something else?

(And I think, in tribute to Douglas Adams, if this were to become a ficathon or standalone comm, it would have to be called the_ends_of_the_earth).

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lost_spook August 18 2013, 10:54:33 UTC
When you mention the end of Foundation, do you mean Assimilated By Alien Group-Mind from Foundation and Earth, or something else?

Yes. I haven't read it since I was a teenager, but it was so self-evidently a stupid thing for the human race to attempt that I was completely disgusted with the entire series and have never forgotten it. Call it Group-Mind Torn Apart. Or tranquilised and absorbed into alien being if it does work out.

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